Place of Birth: Tarzana, Los Angeles, California, U.S.
Date of Birth: December 11, 1996
Ethnicity:
*50% Ashkenazi Jewish
*12.5% Boholano Filipino
*12.5% African-American
*25% mix of English, German, Scots-Irish/Northern Irish, Scottish
Hailee Steinfeld is an American actress, singer, and model.
Hailee’s father, Peter Steinfeld, originally from a family from New York, is Jewish. Hailee’s uncle is fitness specialist and entrepreneur Jake Steinfeld.
Hailee’s mother, Cheryl (Domasin), was born in California. Hailee’s maternal grandfather was of half Filipino (Boholano) and half African-American descent. Hailee’s maternal grandmother had English, German, Scots-Irish (Northern Irish), and Scottish ancestry.
Hailee is a first cousin of actress and model True O’Brien.
Hailee has stated:
I’ve become more aware of my roots over the years. My grandfather, my mom’s dad, was half African-American, half Filipino. And Filipinos, I’ve learned, have many wonderful traits – the main ones being passion and pride. I went to the Philippines for the first time this spring, and it was amazing. People were like, “We’re related! We’re family.” I actually played three of my own shows there.
Hailee’s paternal grandfather was Herbert Melvin Steinfeld (the son of Samuel “Sam” Steinfeld and Bessie Zelensky). Herbert was born in New York. Samuel was a Romanian Jewish immigrant. Bessie was a Russian Jewish immigrant, and was the daughter of Hyman Mendel Zelensky and Sarah Cohen, who was born in Romania.
Hailee’s paternal grandmother is Joy M. Duberstein (the daughter of Myra).
Hailee’s maternal grandfather, Ricardo/Simonas Guillermo Domasin, was born in 1938 in Los Angeles, California. Ricardo’s father, Pastor “Peter” Loresca Domasin, was born, in 1902, in Panglao, Bohol, in the Philippines. Pastor was the son of Gerónimo Domasin y Lorejo, or Gerónimo Lorejo Domasin in Filipino, and of Cirila Loresca y Domaluan, or Cirila Domaluan Loresca in Filipino. A picture of Pastor can be seen here.
Ricardo’s mother, Evelyn Olivia Bain, was born in 1910 in Los Angeles; Evelyn was Hailee’s great-grandmother. Evelyn was African-American, and she and her parents, Thomas Edward Bain (born in Kansas, to Gabrel Bain and Isabella/Belle Johnson) and Wilma “Willie” Frances Peterson (born in Arkansas, to William F. Peterson and Nannie Hall), are listed as either African-American or, sometimes, as “Mulatto”, in census records. A picture of Evelyn can be seen here.
Hailee’s maternal grandmother is Laurita Lee Hinkle (the daughter of William Hicks Hinkle and Edith Laurita Jones). Laurita was born in Texas, and had English, German, Scots-Irish (Northern Irish), and Scottish, ancestry. William was the son of Joshua Madison Hinkle and Ella Malona Payne. Edith was the daughter of Charles Kirby Jones and Ethel Effie Smith.
Hailee’s matrilineal ancestry can be traced back to her fourth great-grandmother, Penelope “Phenina” Watson.
Hailee’s great-uncle, the brother of her maternal grandfather, is child actor Larry Domasin. Larry is pictured here and here.
Sources: Genealogies of Hailee Steinfeld – https://www.geni.com
http://gw.geneanet.org
Baptismal record of Hailee’s maternal great-grandfather, Pastor Loresca Domasin – https://familysearch.org
Hailee’s maternal great-grandmother, Evelyn Olivia Bain, on the 1920 U.S. Census – https://familysearch.org
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Hailee’s paternal grandmother is Joy M. Duberstein (the daughter of Myra).
Same applies to her uncle Jake.
I knew there was something more there than the Jewishness. I suspected it could be East Asian but it was hard to tell. Weirdly not too surprised by the African-American ancestry, the modelling is there.
She looks a mixed race girl to me.
Her representative denied it in 2011, but Hailee has now mentioned her African-American ancestry.
Error-ridden ethnicelebs gets it right again.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/black-thor-actor-blasts-debate-164048
http://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/photos/hailee-steinfeld/seventeen-magazine-september-2016/Hailee-Steinfeld:-Seventeen-Magazine-2016–01-662×897.jpg
She doesn’t look African American or Black
No dip, she’s only 1/8 black. the average black american is 1/8 to 1/5 and they don’t look white
Could be pretty, but her eyes are too small.
You are quite the beauty “expert”, aren’t ya?
I have found Pastor Domasin’s baptismal record: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSM8-74XK-H
Pastor’s correct middle name is Loresca, not Lorisca, based on his baptismal record.
Pastor was the son of Gerónimo Domasin y Lorejo, or Gerónimo Lorejo Domasin in Filipino, and Cirila Loresca y Domaluan, or Cirila Domaluan Loresca in Filipino.
Same applies to her cousin True O’Brien.
Pastor’s year of birth is also verified according to his baptismal record.
Bessie Zelensky was the daughter of Hyman Zelensky and Sarah.
Laurita was also of Scots-Irish (Northern Irish) and Scottish descent.
Hailee’s matrilineal ancestry can be traced back to her 4th great-grandmother Penelope “Phenina” Watson.
Hailee’s great-grandfather William was the son of Joshua Madison Hinkle and Ella Malona Payne. Edith was the daughter of Charles Kirby Jones and Ethel Effie Smith.
Her mother looks white
http://www.media3.hw-static.com/wp-content/uploads/7766707.jpg
Her brother looks very mixed though, interesting
Not really, if you concentrate on just the lower half of her face (from the cheekbones).
her mother looks totally white to me (she could easily be an English woman), she has a big chin but that’s not something unusual.
Herbert was the son of Samuel “Sam” Steinfeld and Bessie Zelensky. Sam was a Romanian Jewish immigrant. Bessie was a Russian Jewish immigrant.
Here’s the proof: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=allgs&gss=sfs28_ms_r_f-2_s&new=1&rank=1&gsfn=Herbert%20Melvin&gsln=Steinfeld&MSAV=1&msfns=Steinfeld&msmns=Valenskey&cpxt=1&cp=12&catbucket=rst&uidh=69f
Regarding Hailee’s paternal grandfather Herbert Melvin Steinfeld, I have found his social security applications and claims record: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=Numident&gss=sfs28_ms_r_db&new=1&rank=1&gsfn=Herbert%20Melvin&gsln=Steinfeld&msddy=2002&MSAV=1&uidh=69f
However, one must have a FULL ACCESS to ANCESTRY.COM to identify his parents because 1940 US Census is not helping (there were two Herbert Steinfeld’s in New York).
Her mother doesn’t look to have any Asian ancestry but Hailee and her brother look to have asian ancestry and have asian features. It’s interesting how people of mix backgrounds come out. Also her mother doesn’t appear to be have any black ancestry but they do. If people question her ethnicity, she appears to not be of African ancestry because her great grandmother was black. Which is not as close in relation like a grandparent or parent. Hailee is 1/8th african and her great grandmother appears to have quite a bit mixture in her. So in a relative sense Hailee is below 1/8th african descent. Very low.
She was far too ugly to play Juliet. Last time I checked Juliet wasn’t part Asian, so…………
Very racist remark… I thought she was all European before I came on here… but the African and Asian side are definitely low…
Thats not racist, she is asian and she clearly looks mixed. She wouldn’t fit the part as juliet either due to her looks.
I see the Filipino, I don’t see the black part though.
Peter L. Domasin -> Pedro “Peter” Lorisca Domasin
The name above were usually Anglicized during the early 20th century.
Peter’s origin probably came from Panglao, Bohol based on current indexed records in FamilySearch. There is one record where Emiliana Loresca Domasin (the daughter of Gerónimo Domasin and Cirila Loresca) married Pedro Arapoc Horcerada (the son of Leoncio Arapoc and Timotea Horcerada). They were both both in Panglao, Bohol. Here’s the source: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-26330-2883-25?cc=2018411&wc=3WJX-FMJ:341024001,341147001,341027601,341023303
*was usually
Okay, Peter’s birthplace is confirmed through this source: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-23415-10235-91
However, it was Pastor Domasin who arrived in Los Angeles, California on July 7, 1923. Also, his year of birth is different. On his passenger list, he was born in 1902.
At least, I am sure that it was him.
Please, don’t comply my request on the first line of my main comment. Instead, refer to this request: Peter L. Domasin -> Pastor “Peter” Lorisca Domasin
Another request: Filipino -> Filipino (Boholano)
People from Bohol are usually Boholanos.
She looks biracial.
so she’s not allowed to say she has African American heritage but Vanessa Williams with her blue eyes and pale skin and one hair perm away from looking totally white can say she is black, hell if I put these two side by side I would say hailee is black
she is rather cute.
i don’t see the black in her. Maybe one of her fingers is black :-)
she’s 1/16 or less “black”.
Her ancestry is
50% Ashkenazi Jewish
25% English and German
12,5% Filipino
12,5% African-American (mulatto/mixed race)
Therefore more than 3/4 of his ancestry is Caucasian
Those Asian genes are strong because she looks Eurasian. Not white at all. I don’t see the black in her though.
well you’re just a hater who leaves derogatory comments on every single post here. why don’t you just get a life, you sicko :)
Go fuck yourself.
That wasn’t even a derogatory post, fucking moron. Are you retarded?
P.S. @notracist: Stop riding my ass. Fucking weird piece of shit.
lol you just proved yourself to be a troll. who’s the moron here? you’re ignorance repels me.
why not black?
Hailee steinfeld is black?!! ohhh! black my ass! this chick is white
LOL exactly. Well she’s also Asian. The Asian gene is hella strong, and she’s only 1/4 or 1/8 whatever the hell…..
Black my ass, she might be 1% black if anything. She sure looks Asian as hell for being only a quarter Asian.
She looks weird.
Just like Cameron Boyce he looks Caucasian but really he is part African American.
Hailey definitely looks mixed, but it’s in her brother that you can see the Black background – not on her at all. He literally looks half Black half White, but light-skinned; especially his hair and face. Looking at Hailey only I can’t say she has some Black ancestry, only a little bit of Asian.
Her brother doesn’t look mixed at all.
She doesn’t have any black in her. She is white, asian and jewish.
white, Asian and jewish? jews are white
Lmao Exactly! Some of the comments on here are beyond stupid.
Really? Didnt know you were a part of her family to be able to tell. Especially when she has posted pictures of a BLACK great grandmother. Y’all just don’t like to see that some of these celebs are part black. Like Shailene Woodley. Get off it.
correction; her eyes are forest green (green+brown) and her hair is dark brown (brunette) I think it should be listed
that’s all I got to say on the matter
@the punisher
you’re an ignoramus, that’s all I have to say on the matter
If you look at the dna markers of origin (y dna of E and J). Ashkenazi Jews have a y dna of mainly J2 (some with the Cohen gene) and others sharing ancestry with Horn and East Africans, Berbers and the Balkins.
Hailee’s mother would have known she was part black in addition to the Filipino, I wonder why she never mentioned it. I had previously believed Hailee was a quarter Filipino with European American and Ashkenazi Jewish.
Some people don’t like mentioning their black/mulatto background unfortunately…
Yup. Sad but true. People should embrace all of who they are.
For people who are curious, here is a picture of her Filipino great-grandpa:
http://hotchkinfamilyhistory.com/p84.htm#i12025
Her African-American great-grandmother: http://hotchkinfamilyhistory.com/p12.htm#i12026
Her African-American great-great-grandpa:
http://hotchkinfamilyhistory.com/p12.htm#i12095
@follers
Nice find,I thought I was a good detective.
They were in the link that was already posted here! lol.
BTW, I finally traced Channing (well, someone in his family did and put it up on ancestry.com). His dad is definitely not black. He (Glenn Tatum) may have been raised in Louisiana, but he is the son of two “regular” Alabama WASPs.
Channing’s “Creole” comment is quite odd considering he was talking about Gambit, a character who is a “Cajun”.
@Follers
That funny,there was this Geneticist on the news.He states he’s been testing white people all over the south.Going by him every white he’s tested has shown positive for black heritage,but the had no native blood.
Maybe he did mean white creole,or maybe he was told that.Mixed creoles who could pass for white often did,and marked themselves down as such.Well until he shows otherwise,I will go with what you say.
“Maybe he did mean white creole,or maybe he was told that”
His dad’s family doesn’t seem to have much genealogical connection to Louisiana. I think his dad was just raised there. Maybe it was a figure of speech, then. Channing doesn’t have neither Cajun nor Creole roots.
I sbumitted this to his page:
Channing’s patrilineal line traces back to a Nathaniel Tatum, who was born c. 1599, in London, England.
Channing’s paternal grandparents were Samuel Hudson Tatum (the son of Enoch Wilkerson Tatum, Sr. and Josephine or Jo Hunt) and Avis Jearlene Hunt (the daughter of Harvey Reed Hunt and Nellie P. Esco). Channing’s fa ther spent time in Lousiana, but Channing’s paternal grandparents were both born in Alabama. Their families had lived in the South (including Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina) for many generations.
Genealogy of Channing’s paternal grandfa ther, Samuel Hudson Tatum – http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/a/t/Thomas-V-Tatum-ALa/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0072.html
Genealogy of Channing’s paternal great-grandmother, Josephine or Jo Hunt (focusing on her own dad’s side) – http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=bloomco&id=I3130
Genealogies of Channing’s paternal great-grandmother, Nellie P. Esco – http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=waynetiller&id=I03057
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=:3303687&id=I663642169
@follers
OK,OK sweetie,I’m going with what you say
how the great….grandpa is AA??
What do you mean? He and his wife were black/mixed race. He certainly looks black/mixed race.
http://hotchkinfamilyhistory.com/p12.htm#i12095
I dont see any African trait in this man
Thomas Edward Bain? He was black and he looks black to me in that picture. His daughter is pictured right above him, and she’s also black. The census says they’re black.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MHQ1-8RG
he could be classified black because of the one-drop rule (maybe he was a quadroon) but his traits were absolutely Caucasian
It’s hard to tell what his skin color was from an old black-and-white picture, but it looks at least fairly dark to me. He definitely doesn’t look like a “typical” white American in that picture, far from it.
It is interesting, that at least one of his other daughter married a Filipino, also! At the time, in California, blacks and Filipinos could not marry whites, legally, but they could marry each other.
*daughters
that Filipino man u posted looked like he was the President of the country
I thought it was her grandma who was Filipino? Or is it her grandpa? On IMDB someone said it was her grandma, idk though.
Her maternal grandfather’s father, Peter L. Domasin, was Filipino.
This surprises me. I thought she was completely caucasian. Well, guess not, lol. :) And when I look at this picture, I can see it.
I agree with fuzzybear. It is great that this is cleared up. Her agent said she had no African American descent so I wonder what that was about? Maybe they just weren’t aware. You are really good at this genealogy research follers.
I was meaning the agent might not have been aware.
To follers
good going on the research.
Im not kidding she looks exactly like my childhood best friend. (she wasn’t part philipino though)
Every websites says she is part African American can any proof she isn’t? can any show mw a website that says she isn’t? i will believe it if you do and by the way i am not African American
Hi Ena – Hailee’s rep has denied that she has African American ancestry.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/black-thor-actor-blasts-debate-164048?page=show
“People were so desperate for any sign of color at the Feb. 27 ceremony that many media outlets, including the Boston Globe, accepted as fact the rumor that True Grit nominee Hailee Steinfeld’s mother is part African-American. (Steinfeld’s rep told THR that the claim, spread on the Internet in recent days, is erroneous.)”
I have read somewhere that Hailee has some North African ancestry but I don’t know if that is true. I’ll see if I can find a source sometime.
The quote above is from the article not from me.
What a bunch of if=diots google hailee steinfield mother is mixed African American you are all saying that half Asian kids looks more white you all will be surprised hailee has African American blood
Her mother is half filipina half african american google hailee stenfield is part black
No she isn’t. Her mom is English, Filipino and German. It says here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hailee_Steinfeld
the information above,has already proven that she does have African American ancestry. That Wikipedia page was written by someone,who obviously didn’t know all the facts.However believe what you want.
Wikipedia cites this very ethnicelebs page as one of the references, which is even more hilarious since it doesn’t use all the correct information.
She is a quarter Filipino. What is the fuss about?
mother fillipina so where does the european comes in?
Her mom isn’t full Filipina. She’s mixed. English, Filipino and German.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hailee_Steinfeld
http://hutchinsphoto.photoshelter.com/image/I0000K1MCB0XtpQ0 her parents.
wiki says her paternal grandfather was filipino
i mean MATERNAL***
I like her.
Me too.
Filipinos come in different colors. But people who have not travelled much think that others cannot be dark without being Black. Australoids like the itas are very dark, yet they are the farthest people from Blacks. 99% of Filipinos do not have Australoid ancestry, & yes they are allowed to be dark as they are olive skinned. You will notice that usually, it is the laborers & those who toil in the sun that is the darkest. But still you do not have to be Black to be dark. Many Indians are dark. Many Japanese & Koreans are also dark. Many Southern Chinese are Dark. Many Southern Europeans are also dark. The world is not mad eup of Black & white people only, there is a gradient. The people closest to the equator are usually darker. Native Americans were very dark 500 years ago, yet they have no Black ancestry.
Nope, whoever you are, I suggest you don’t waste your time with these 2. I seriously think they are trolling. they are making things up purposely to get to you. I even believe it is just Fuzzy, making up multiple accounts here just to troll you because she wants Hailee to be Black. As for me, I’m out of here, I suggest you follow suit & ignore them from now on. Nananadya mga yan, wag mong patulan.
If she is racially mixed she wouldn’t look lie Serena Williams. Actress Troian Avery Bellisario has African American roots and take a look at the daughters of Victoria Rowell, Persia White and Karyn White, they are all blue-eyed, blond and white. You are wasting your time arguing with Nope/Bianca because she is a Puerto Rican troll Spanish apologist you constantly searches the blogs to dispute the African ancestry of famous people. It is not difficult to understand her twisted way of seeing things after watching Blacks In Latin America. Puerto Ricans have always loved and slavishly adored their ancestors tormentors more than they loved their ancestors. They are despised by the White latinos even to this day. Cheryl Burke, of Dancing With The stars, is part white and part Filipino though she looks part black. I’m guessing her Filipino ancestry was Negrito. Also check out the phenotypes and coloring of the largest population of Negritos in that part of the world. Definite combination of Asian & African.
real talk, i watched blacks in latin america and they did not go to puerto rico.do your research spain started pr the tainos were killed off and have no blood ties to prs,spain italy and ireland kept coming to the island in large numbers up until the early 1900’s,no doubt you have never been to the island and seen real prs.so do some research and find out why some latinos hate prs.hmmm could it be its because pr is an american commonwealth? i think thats more likely.
The Puerto Ricans were slaves longer than any other group in the west.
YOU ARE AN IDIOT. FILIPINOS ARE NOT PART BLACK OR NEGRITO MIXED. SOME OF US MAY HAVE NEGRITO ANCESTRY BUT THAT DOESN’T MEAN THAT ALL OF US SHARE THAT SAME ANCESTRY. FYI, EVEN BEFORE THE SPANIARDS CAME, THE ANCIENT FILIPINOS PRACTICED A TRADITION OF LOCKING AWAY THEIR MOST BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTERS TO KEEP THEM AWAY FROM THE SUN. WHEN THE SPANIARDS CAME AND SAW THESE WOMEN, THEY EVEN SAID THEY WERE AS FAIR AS THE SPANISH LADIES. AND BTW, FUNNY YOU ONLY MENTION CHERYL BURKE. TAKE A LOOK AT THESE OTHER HALF FILIPINOS AND TELL ME IF THEY LOOK PART BLACK TO YOU:
http://www.peoples.ru/art/fashion/mannequin/misa_campo/campo_2.jpg
http://cdn02.cdn.socialitelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/darren-criss-12052010.jpg
http://www.pep.ph/images/guide/15d535210.jpg
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gp/Michael+Copon+Kim+Kardashian+rumored+RVyk4wyFe84l.jpg
http://www.celebs101.com/gallery/Raquel_Gibson/234589/Raquel_Gibson_Picture.jpg
why the fuck is there a pic of darren criss here? his mum was born on the phillipines but she is mixed with filipino & chinese and spanish. and darren ‘s father is irish so he’s very far away from bein half filipino
Just to let you know, most Filipinos will say they’re mixed with Chinese and Spanish, but today, about 95% of Filipinos are mixed with something else because of past invasions. I mean it’s not like Darren’s maternal grandparents are Chinese and Spanish, it just means that some of his ancestors might have been Chinese or Spanish.
If you look at Darren’s mother’s picture, she looks just like any other Filipino woman her age. A lot of Filipinos today are just trying to sound cute by saying they’re mixed with something else even if it’s only 1/10 of foreign blood in their body.
Darren Criss is still considered half-Filipino.
and btw, she is racially mixed that’s why she DOES NOT look like serena williams who is as ugly and dark as sin:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.bvhairtalk.com/media/2010/03/serena2450.gif
http://ns1.101lifestyle.com/images/celebs/hailee_steinfeld/DCELEB-hailee-steinfeld-pics-002.jpg
Like your typical dark skin Puerto Rican and Dominican man or woman. Only the light Puerto Ricans are mixed.
This may or may not be true.
She is 3/4 caucasian and 1/4 filipino period.
Yes.
I need to get some Filipino blood on my babies.
Then go knock up a Filipino woman. :D
It is a well known fact that Filipino are desperate to be white and they worship white skin. Filipino parents sell their daughters to white men in order for their grandchildren to be lighter skinned.
Jewish is an ethnicity and a religion.
It is a ethnoreligion! How many times do we have to explain this? It is an ethnicity as well as a religion! Hailee’s father is Jewish and her surname is as well.
It is a ethnoreligion! How many times do we have to explain this? It is an ethnicity as well as a religion!
People should find out what it is, before talking nonsense.
She looks completely white because if you guys didn’t know anything about genetics Mongoloid (Asian) genes are far weaker than white genes, If a white person had a baby by a black person and that baby grew up and got a white woman preganant the baby would still look black-ish, if that black-ish baby slept with a white woman the baby would look somewhat white but ultimately still have negroid features.
With Asians its completely different. Asian genes can occassionaly disappear within 1-2 generations. This is why most Eurasians almost always come out looking more Caucasian.
@bi
that’s not true,look at victoria roswell daughter,and eartha kitt daughter
First off no race gene is weaker.. they are just different.. some blood genes against diseases are not stronger. the reason people are more sick in certain races in certain countries is because of opportunity being lacked or minority mistreatment. if you have not noticed, many eurasians still look a little asian.. a good example is krissada sukosol.. he is thai, and he is eurasian. he does not have the asian eye traits permanently, but he has the asian cheek/facial features permanently… and also wentworth miller is mulatto, but he did not look like it until later in age. Appearances can be deceiving! Even white/caucasian people can look different than just white.. I don’t look white, but I am. I have met one that looked asian, but he is white and I knew right away his heritage is white from historical events and business that his father was running, he is. I even met 2 different, unrelated half asians that looked white.
It depends more so on the father of the child. I have noticed a particular trend among many people of biracial ancestry. They are more likely to come out looking like the race of the father rather than the race of their mother. You have genes confused on the “weaker” and “stronger” genes. The European genes are simply more dominant than the Asian genes. And African genes are more dominant than both. If an African person and a European person have a child together the child will have very light skin but is more likely to have Negroid features as opposed to Caucasoid features. The same would happen if it were African and Asian.
Keep in mind I said it’s LIKELY to happen not that it is definite because not every case is the same.
@gem
I think it’s more to it than that.You left out some other factors.First what if the black person is also Caucasoid in facial type?.Next what if either parent is not pure in their heritage?.What I mean is what if the black parent is only half black,or the white parent is only 3/4 white(but looks completely white).Or what if both parents are tri-racial?There are other factors,but I think you get what I’m saying
Of course I understand that, but the Negroid features would still be very apparent out of the three. I only meant the indigenous people of each continent because each one’s DNA is at its most powerful as opposed to Americans, who have years of mixed lineage. A pure African who mates with a pure European(and vice versa if it matters to people) will be more likely to have a child that is fair skinned but with more Afrocentric features than Eurocentric features(other than the obvious light skin). An African American, however, who creates children with a pure European or a European American will have a child that is more mixed looking(if you know what I mean). The child will have less African DNA due to the admixtures already embedded into African Americans. So therefore the child will more than likely look like a typical Hispanic/Latino(Mexican, Puerto Rican, or even Belizean)because they are mixed themselves. The child is more likely to have more European DNA, have significant African DNA, and some Amerindian DNA.
I understand that there are other factors. Genetics is a very funny thing and it is far more complicated than people put it to be. Like being a light skinned African American automatically makes you mixed. There are more complicated factors to that and the shallow seem to miss that. Having light skin is not an undeniable indication of admixture within people of African descent because all African people are not dark as night. But then one must take into account having an Albanistic parent(s). People misunderstand the concept of genetics.
Bull crap! It’s not about probability, but genes. Everyone is different. Quincy Jones daughter is Rashida Jones and she looks completely WHITE. Jennifer Beals’ mother is white and father is black, but she looks WHITE.
Many half Asians half whites look ASIAN.
Please stop with this psudeoscience before someone reads this and believes it.
To Misty Jean
If you were responding to me you should first read my above comment.
Not true. I am white and have a Thai wife. Our son looks very much like my wife’s mother.
As I said, not every case is the same :-)
You are wrong in some cases; Asian (Mongoloid) genes are usually stronger, thus it will show up in a person’s features (esp the eyes). This is why you see slight Asiatic features in people with Native American ancestry.
However, there ARE cases where it’s not notable. ie. the guy who played Zack in ‘Saved by the Bell’.
She looks white because most of her ancestry is white. Her mother is half Filippino so Hailee is 25% Asian. Usually dark colouring is dominant. If a person has a parent of full Asian ancestry and one parent of European ancestry the Asian characteristics will definitely be noticeable. Genes are either recessive or dominant. To exhibit recessive traits like red hair or blue eyes they have to be passed on to the child from BOTH parents.
To me you can see that Hailee has some Asian ancestry.
Actually most Eurasian look more Asian than white. Not all of the time, but 99% of the time they look more Asian than white.
Eurasians*
wow! Go Filipinos!!!
Filipinos are not part black. Get your fact strait. Negrito genes are not even 1% of Filipino genes. Most Filipinos look the same before the spanish came to the islands. We look similar to other South east asian populations. The most closely related population to us is the Ami Taiwanese Aborigenes.
First learn how to use the right word.Next 1% means it’s in you,also you don’t know what they looked like back then;so keep your bigoted butt quiet.We (STRAIT) LOL
Correction
This page needs to be updated, Hailee’s reps have said that she is not African-American.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/black-thor-actor-blasts-debate-164048
I guess it obvious her rep lied
There are more ethnicities in Europe than characters allowed in Twitter.
In fact, “Jewish” is an ethnic designation, as well as one claimed by those converted or inclined towards Judaism. This is why one will often hear the only half joking “is he/she a member of the tribe?” And, in truth, the criterion is so narrow that even one with Jewish bloodlines, according to Jewish law, may not be considered a Jew unless he or she has a Jewish mother. Times change, but Talmud doesn’t. Ever. Personally, I certainly don’t dismiss the legitimacy of anyone who has converted to Judaism, but the fact remains that “Jewish” is absolutely, and many would say fundamentally, an ethnic designation. A born Jew can convert to Catholicism, for example, even be devout, but will remain ethnically a Jew, practicing Catholicism.
And what about king David?
sorry to say but it is ’cause of the terminology ehtnicity. cultural tradition….
You can see it in her name that she has german avancer.
Her grandfather was half Filipino and half Black. Grandma was white.
um….hailee’s grandfather is filipino and her grandma is white. she’s not african american at all.
To nope
Don’t be silly I wouldn’t say she had it, if she didn’t.This is truly amazing,that’s the one heritage you people would deny;sad sad sad
how the heck would you know she has african american heritage? it’s already confirmed she’s not african american so stop trying to claim her as one of ur own. i’m sure hailee and her family knows more about her ancestry than you do. get over the fact she’s not one of your people.
To Nope
Whomever you are,if she is doing what you say she is,which is not unusual for celebs like her.It is fine with me,except for you attacking me,I haven’t given her a second thought since putting her on here.There are a number of celebs who said the same thing,and turn out to be lying.However I’m not the only one stating that she is this combo.It’s all over the net,here are just a few examples of many which all say the same thing.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2794962/bio
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110201/LETTERS/110209998
http://www.thegrio.com/entertainment/10-ways-to-get-more-diversity-in-the-oscars.php
Claim her, I don’t need to claim anyone,her having that heritage doesn’t make her one of mine.I don’t get a Hailee prize if she says she’s part black.So you need to get a grip,it not that serious
@nope
One of his?You sound like a dumb racist retard.Like he said,get a grip
what’s more sad are people like fuzzybear who keepz claiming hailee as part black even though she’z already denied it lolz. she’z not part african american, she’z asian and white, so get ova it.
This is why I didn’t like the ratings.People don’t tell you why they don’t like what you say,they just check like or dislike
How is she not part african american when there are census records listing her ancestors as african american or mulatto for 4 generations??? You’re not making any sense here.
To nope
Are you going to man-up an admit I was right?
I take it you didn’t read the article? So what, it doesn’t change the facts that she is white, black & yellow. Have you seen John Gosselin’s children, they look more Asian than he does.
Too Be Honest Fuzzybeary, Just Because White Americans Have 1-3% Black Blood, Doesn’t Mean It Was Recent! That White Person With 1-3% Black Blood Could Have Had More Than One Distant Ancestor (7th Great Grandparent) That Equaled to 1-3% Black! If It Was 3 Black Great Great Great Great Grand Parent(Each Are Equivalent To 1.5625%), Or One Black Great Great Great Grand Parents (Each Equivalent To 3.125%) Would Be More Of A Recent Black Linage! Rather Than 15 7th Great Grandparent (Which Means That Each Maybe Equivalent To Around 0.000000000154%)…But You Get What I Mean! This Post Was A Response To Your Post On That Topic!
But I Was Technically Was Here To Try And Tell Nope That The Moors Were Actually Black! The First Few Pics That You Post Fuzzybear On The Moors Look Quite Recent! But The Last Pics Were Better Examples Of How They Look 400 Years Ago! But Another Thing If You Guys Are Looking How The Moors Look 400 Years Ago, Then That Is Not A Proper Debate Because The Moors At That Time Were Looking Like Arabs Indianish But Dark! But Saying That Moors Were Black Around The 700 BC Then That’s Were We Would Have A Debate!
Here Is An Article:
THE GLOBAL AFRICAN COMMUNITY
H I S T O R Y N O T E S
MOORS AND ARABS
By YVONNE CLARK*
Posted by RUNOKO RASHIDI
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When the Romans entered West Africa in 46 B.C., they saw Africans and called them Maures, from the Greek adjective Mauros, meaning dark or black. It is from Mauros and the Latin term Marues that the word Moor is derived. Since the inhabitants of North Africa were black, the Romans and later the Europeans called them Moors. It is no coincidence that the land inhabited by the Moors was called Mauritania and Morocco, meaning “Land of the Blacks.”
In the beginning of the seventh century, the Arab prophet, Muhammad, began to preach the word of Islam. Consumed with religious fervor, the Arabs sought to spread Islam and conquer the world. By 708, the Arabs had overrun North Africa. Consequently, Moors in large numbers accepted Arabic as the national language and converted to their conqueror’s religion, Islam. Interestingly, hundreds of years later, Africans who had been enslaved by Europeans would again convert to their conqueror’s religion, Christianity.
After the fall of the Roman Empire (fifth century), Spain was held by a barbaric white tribe, the Visigoths. Though they were Christians, their brand of Christianity was cruel and unjust. For this reason, Spain’s Jews, serfs, and slaves looked favorably upon the arrival of a new civilization in which they would be able to live free of persecution.
Tarik, a great African chief, was given the rank of general in the Arab army and sent to raid Spain. On April 30, 711, Tarik landed on the Spanish Coast with 7,000 troops. His troops consisted of 300 Arabs and 6,700 native Africans (Moors). An ancient source, Ibn Husayn (ca. 950, recorded that these troops were “Sudanese”, an Arabic word for Black people.
The Moors were unstoppable, and Visigothic Spain ceased to be. The few resisting Visigoths fled to the caves of the Cantabrian Mountains. Later in the century, the cave dwellers would venture out of the Cantabrian Mountains and reclaim parts of northern Spain.
The Moors of Africa were the real conquerors. When the Arabs arrived, the hardest part of the job had been done. Instead of treating the Moors fairly, the Arab chiefs assigned themselves the most fertile regions. The dissatisfied Moors were not long in coming to blows with the Arabs. (The History of Spain by Louis Bertrand and Sir Charles Petrie – published by Eyre & Spottiswood, London, 1945, page 36). Ultimately, the Moors acquired two-thirds of the peninsula, which they named Al-Andulus.
Al -Andulus was obliged to pay tribute to the Arab Caliph (King) of Damascus. As Al-Andulus acquired its own identity, its bond with the Caliph began to weaken. In 756, Al-Andulus proclaimed itself an independent state. Thus, its only links to the Arabs would be the Islamic faith and the Arabic language.
The Moorish architectural remains in Cordoba, Seville, and Granada prove conclusively that these cities were more prosperous and artistically more brilliant than any Christian cities in Europe at the time. The Moors of Al-Andulus held the torch of leaning and civilization when the rest of Europe was plunged in barbaric ignorance.
If Moorish Spain had been an accomplishment of the Arabs it would have been called Arab or Arabic Spain. Instead it bears the name of its creators, the Moors, i.e., Moorish Spain. Moorish culture was black in origin, bright in Achievement, and powerful in its influence on the rest of Europe.
–Yvonne Clark
Here A Website With Ancient Black History:
http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/runoko.html
Technically What I Am Saying Is The Moors 400 Years Ago Were Likely To Be Mixed Blood Or Had Admixture; And I Am Saying This Because 400 Years Ago Was During Slavery Times!
Sorry If It Seems I Am Debating Against You Fuzzybear!….Well I Am But Only On The 1-3% Thing! But For The Moors I Am WITH You!
To total23:sorry in a lot of pain right now which why I can sleep.Anyhow you should know by I don’t mind someone disagreeing with me.However when I said recent and it can still be measured ,and the avg was 2-20% with the avg 2.4 % in est 30% of the white population . The fact that it can be measure, at that level means it falls within 150 year range,which is recent. Which is what they do to us. Plus the experts estimated that was 74 million white people fall in that range. This is not talking about all the bi and tri-racial who even now pass as white.You know they would never let themselves be tested.On top of that,from my understanding,they don’t test certain age groups,so with that the number jumps
You Didn’t Prove Me Wrong! Wow! I Am So Shocked! Lol..I Was Just Saying 150 Years Ago Wouldn’t Be At The Time When Our 7th Great Grandparent (Who Are Not Recent!) Were Born.
Filipino? African American? I’m shocked she looks 10000% White :S
To Me!
Why is it really such a shock?There are millions and millions on top of millions of completely white looking people, with recent black heritage;and other heritages.
with recent black heritage you said it yourself.. that heritages make up less then 10%.. so they are White..! I bet she is also like that..!
To Me
Where do you get less than 10%,she’s at least a 25%.Also what I mean by recent heritage,is say within the last 4 or 5 generations,which she clearly falls in.You can look completely white and be 50% black;I’ve seen many examples of this
Excellent point fuzzybear… it amuses me when people are shocked that someone who isn’t visibly black has some black ancestry. When Derek Jeter started his career, some people assumed he was white, and his father is a fairly dark-skinned African-American.
And are people not aware that many Americans of partial black ancestry have “passed” into the white world? Are they not aware that many whites have fully black ancestors a few generations back? (Every other white person you meet will claim Cherokee ancestry, but somehow the widespread race-mixing between black Americans and white Americans never results in predominantly white people with black ancestry.)
She does not look 10000% white. Did you look at her features again or just her skin color? Duh.
no she doesnt look 1000 percent white, but she sure as hell doesnt look black either. she lookz eurasian.
White people come in all different varieties, She look similiar to mediterraneans whom are white. and it would make sense given the influence latin people had on the Phillipines. Most people don’t even realize half of South America has a “Caucasian” phenotype, wha? you thought the latin look just came out of nowhere? no it was given to South America by the Spaniards, Italians, Portuguese and various other latin folk who colonized the lands.
@bi
actually most of the natives are caucasian by themselves,without any mixture.It’s climate that’s makes you have a certain phenotype
She does not look fully white. I knew she was mixed with Asian when I first saw her. You must be blind or stupid as f*ck.
To Marlowe
Yes they seem to have no clue
to fuzzybear
for example. jessica alba’s husband, cash warren
he’s half black, but i thought he was like native mexican or something
as well as mixing
u relly are an idiot. north african doesn’t mean african american dumbass. it’s so obvious ur one of those afrocentrists. next thing u noe, ud be claiming blonde haired blue eyed north africans or ancient egyptians as black lolz. it’s already been confirmed that hailee isn’t part african american, so stop trying to insist that she is by posting links to wrong info. her mother is a eurasian, coz her grandpa is a filipino and her grandma is white. her imdb page mentions she is part north african, not african american. ders a diff. look it up.
Those Sites Are Asumming, Espescially The Second Site. The Second Site That The Fillipino Ancestry Is From The Father, But It Is Not, It’s From The Mother.
@nope
Anyone north african coming here is African American,they’re even more than we are
To nope
Well first name calling,your really showing your age.Next (WTF) was correct,( black or African American people are “A person having origins in any of the black racial groups of Africa”)So once they come here, they get to call themselves African American;even white Africans can and have done this.Also you seem to be naive enough to believe that calling me Afrocentric is an insult.I could just as easily call you Eurocentric.However yes,I’m all about learning about my black heritage,and very proud to do so.OMG your one of those crazy Eurocentric.It’s obvious you know nothing about white slavery,european colonialism,and for sure know nothing about Egypt.As a matter of fact here’s a white person saying you know nothing about egypt:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FciCAXYWx3s&feature=related
Also the other sites say AA.However (WTF) gave a great solution.Take it to Ethnic,he’s the administrator.If you actually have good proof,and it checks out,he will change it;otherwise your saying no, while I’m saying yes
To nope
Well Ethnic use Wiki as source,and I guest he agrees with you,so I guess we can drop it
@nope
You are ignorant! Take a good long look in the mirror. I wonder what would you see. LOL!!!
To WTF
excellent point
why don’t u include charlize theron as african american as well since she is from africa lolz. how pathetic 4 u to try to claim a chick who isn’t even black at all, she has never claimed it yet u guyz keep insisting she is lolz. hailee is as african american as charlize theron.
really? if dat’s da case how come i’ve never heard anyone call charlize theron african american. after all, dat’s exactly what she is. hailee is as african american as charlize theron and dat blonde little girl i posted.
To nope
Just because you haven’t heard of something,doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist
Trevor Richards
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=22929
Paulo Serodia:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7567291&page=1
Greta Lawrence:
http://www2.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=9801
Now reason Charlize doesn’t do it,is because she doesn’t do it.I have no reason to lie to someone like you
@Fuzzy
Man that’s Fuck up,white Africans do that shit
To wtf
man you haven’t heard anything.Many of those white AA’s say we can’t call ourselves AA,that they are the only ones who have that right.I talked to them before,and they said if black people don’t want those scholarships,they are more than happy to take them.Now that one of the reasons they put AA on their applications.It’s not right,but they are AA so sometimes they get away with it
To total23
You caught the jewish thing,I’m impress.You know something else that’s kinda bothering me.In site nope provided,the rep use the word erroneous.That’s strange word to use,instead of just saying that’s not true.Makes me kinda wonder exactly what kind of question did the person ask or how the question was ask.Because may the way it was ask,might have implied the wrong thing;Just my thoughts
I’d guezz Hailee’s dad’z a Sephardic Jew coz her last name Steinfeld is so close to Seinfeld, which is a Sephardic jewish name. Where’s da evidence her dad has black ancestry btw? unless sum ppl here still can’t let go of hailee NOT having any black ancestry. lolz. how sad.
Erroneous means Untrue doofus. Why for the love of God you’d even bother to nitpick her rep’s words is just plain stupid. and who knows, he/she might have said it’s not true but the writer probably used the word erroneous in the article because they hold the SAME MEANING. STOP TRYING 2 ASSUME HAILEE IS BLACK WHEN DER IS NO EVIDENCE SHE IS LOSERZ!
To whomever you are
You guys keep saying that, so Please show me a 400 a picture of the filipinos 400 yrs ago
To Nope
For your information,I do know what Erroneous mean.I said it a strange word for the rep to use instead of just saying it untrue.that leads to other ideas,also I did say it was just me thinking;if you reread.However it make sense now why you were crying like a little girl.All this time worrying if she black thinking I’m trying to claim her,when actually it was you wanting to claim her;when I could care less.also your the one who keeps bring her up
I Don’t Think This Is A Pic Four Hundred Years Ago But It Is Something! I Am Giving You Any Information, That’s Is Why I Am Giving You The Website With The Picture, Instead The Picture By It’s Self! Read For Yourself! I Would Probably Say A Filipino Looked Quite mix With East Asian/Black/East Indian or Pakistani Or Something! Anything To Stop You Two Bickering….I Mean, It Takes Nealy 5 Minutes Just To Scroll Up The Page…Lol! (Literally!)
All I Am Saying It Doesn’t Matter No More How They Look Way Back Then Because It’s Pointless! Why Do You Think There Is So Much Hate Between Race And Ethnic Groups, Because They Are LOOKING AT THE PAST Instead Looking Towards The Future, Or Just Living In The Present!…I Mean Fuzzy, I Don’t Care If You Want To Give A History Lesson, But When Someone Does Not Listen, It’s Pointless….Just Forget About It! (You Can’t Help Others Learn, When They Don’t Want To Learn Their selves) I Am Addressing You Fuzzy Because Your My Friend! And Too Be Honest You Gett Into A Lot Of Crap, Because People Just Don’t Want To Hear It. And You Should Just End It Here Or Respond To Another Users Comment Because NOPE Is Just Not Getting It; I Mean You Can Tell SHE’s Not Getting It; She’s Calling You Names And Cussing!
FUZZY Just Forget About Her! (Nope!)
http://bramie.com/igorot.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/2424994989/
http://www.apat-na-alon-tribe.com/tribe_members.html
Again, I Don’t Know If It’s Accurate Because I Just Want This To End Now!
To total23
Loooool,ok man for you I will stop.Don’t feel well anyhow,and your right what’s the point.But I had forgotten about hailee a long time ago
To total
Nope a girl?
@total23
Alright homie I’m out of it,it’s a girl,how old?
To total
Btw no,those aren’t from 400yrs ago.I knew no one could show any 400yrs old pics
To total
Your right lately,well always I do get into a lot of heavy debates.That’s the funny thing,I really not a combative person.Pretty much most of the people I argue with,I would most likely get along fine with,because this race stuff would never come up,at least by me.However here’s a problem,others say let them learn on their own,but they keep learning the same dumb junk over and over,then they pass it to others.This is a real problem,should I shut up,or say something and risk a fight.The truth set you free,but ignorance is bliss.I got to go,pain coming back
I Am Not Sure If Nope Was A Girl Or A Boy! That Was A Mistake, I Was Suppose To Put He or She! Sorry!
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRt7Nb2AuCUHEpcUUmHs56WSJsz_A8gHJg7g8vOK8mWhleWKFcR
http://i47.tinypic.com/2uegqoo.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/nc08dx.gif
http://i48.tinypic.com/etv33r.jpg
These are all more than 400 years old, by a Chinese painter who was cataloging the Filipinos. The painted natives & the last pic are from the same ethnic people though from different groups, 1 from Luzon, the other from Visayas. The Visayans were painted warriors because they were heavily tattooed, a warrior culture because they were so close to the Moros in Mindanao who always raided them.
These are all well known records, stop spreading lies for your own agendas. I even think you’ve made multiple accounts here just to troll on Filipinos.
Now, pls stop trolling.
lolz, so anyone who contradicts ur claims are dumb racists now? maybe u and fuzzybear are da ones who needz to get a grip coz u both can’t seem to handle da truth. u both can’t seem to accept the fact dat hailee isn’t one of ur own ppl. she’z not african american, accept dat fact and move on instead of trying to insist that she is.
@nope
First everything on the net says she is. Now if you have actual proof that she’s not ,then give it to ethnic. Otherwise you sound like a little child crying.Also stop voting for yourself,that’s really sad
To Nope
that’s the thing you did,anyone who doesn’t go along with what you say,you call dumb.Also you haven’t give any truth,the only thing you’ve done is say she wasn’t.Like I say get the interview to Ethnic.Also again you you can’t read,I’m not trying to claim anyone.There’s nothing a 14yrs old girl is going to do for me.Your the one who’s obsessed with her not me.Like I said,if you had not been attacking me,I would have forgotten all about her.Now prove what you say to the administrator,and that will be the end of it.
Also I agree your voting for your self,so stop it that’s childish
To Wtf
excellent point
Even people in hollywood don’t consider hailee as black:
“I mean, were there any black Academy Award nominees this year? No, zero,” says Don Cheadle, who was nominated for best actor for 2004’s Hotel Rwanda. “Is there really a dearth of talent? Who decided that? Who do you point to and get mad at? It’s hard to pin down.”
People were so desperate for any sign of color at the Feb. 27 ceremony that many media outlets, including the Boston Globe, accepted as fact the rumor that True Grit nominee Hailee Steinfeld’s mother is part African-American. (Steinfeld’s rep told THR that the claim, spread on the Internet in recent days, is erroneous.)
It isn’t lost on black actors, though, that Steinfeld, because of her debut performance in the Coen brothers’ Western, is already on the list of hot emerging stars that’s being closely monitored by power brokers throughout Hollywood. It’s harder, and takes longer, for emerging black actors to get on the same roster. Being cast in movies made primarily for white audiences can help exponentially.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/black-thor-actor-blasts-debate-164048
yet here u are, still trying to insist she is even though hailee’s rep has denied it lolz. i guess da article is correct after all, coz ur so desperate to see a black face dat ur still trying 2 insist hailee is african american lolz. yeah, she’z african american alright, juz like charlize theron is lolz lolz.
And you will never see any Black Hispanic faces because they are not considered latin.
don’t need to, since da page is already updated. she ain’t black, so get ova it.
To Nope
Please get this through your head,saying she has black heritage is not saying she’s black.The same way me having White heritage does not make me white;and Don Cheadle understands that.However I will let it go,but for the record,Hailee didn’t actually say it did she.I mean we don’t actually have her in any interview stating it to be erroneous,do we;just her rep?
@Fuzzy
I’ve seen some of your stuff before,I’m surprised you didn’t know Filipinos were part negrito
To pinoylove
Actually I did know that,but (nope) was hooked on the AA thing,and thinking I was trying to claim her;which I wasn’t.However when they hear someone has black heritage automatically they think your trying to turn them black
no, hailee ain’t part black. if she waz, her rep would neva hav denied it. why would hailee need 2 say it when they already contacted her representative? wateva comes out of her rep’s mouth is clozer 2 da truth than stuff spread on da net. since der is no proof dat hailee’s part black, and hailee’s rep has already denied it, den why would u even bother to assume she is part black? like i said, hailee is as black as charlize theron is. lolz.
to wtf, so u post picz of a mixed negrito kid and ask me if he’z black?
well, lemme ask u dis, is nahlah black coz she haz light skin, light hair, and light eyez and she’z 75 percent caucasian?
http://www.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/halle-berry-aubry-nahla-flight-02-736×1024.jpg
also, u compare mixed negritoz to flipz, wow. how smart of u. do u mean 2 tell me dat all white ppl are mixed wid african american coz african americanz have white ancestry? lolz, coz datz wat ur implyin here. da negritoz may have mixed wid some of da flipz but dat doesnt mean dat all flipz have negrito ancestry.
diz is wat negritoz tend 2 look like if deyr not mixed as much:
http://www.silent-gardens.com/img/ati/ati-02-small.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_h5L0bq0pIhY/R7Fnj0nKdTI/AAAAAAAAAjE/XEJvBU_MhQU/s320/Ati_woman.jpg
http://www.ethnicgroupsphilippines.com/uploads/ethnic-groups/ati.jpg
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldrh0pyqmt1qcwnv4o1_500.jpg
what normal flipz look like, derz a diff. and anyone who sayz der isnt is juz plain blind or pretendin 2 be:
http://www.filipinosinnewbrunswick.com/FANB%20AHS%20Gala/IMG_1864.jpg
http://media.photobucket.com/image/poor%20filipinos/MrMorningstarr/filipino-kidney-donors.jpg
http://www.intercedenow.ca/Files/Image/801SMM%20Lighthouse%20teachers%20and%20students_w.jpg
@nope
Well that’s and old pic of halle kid,this is a better one:
http://www.fashionfame.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/nahla-aubry.jpeg
Well see I’m pretty much the same color as halle kid,so if I see myself as a black person,what I see her as.However I do understand you don’t,and why.
Now I put those Fili’s,because I wanted to show if they mixed negritos now,who’s to say it has been going on all along
Like this,:
a negrito:
http://www.joshuaproject.net/profiles/photos/p10477.jpg
http://www.joshuaproject.net/people-profile.php?peo3=10477&rog3=RP
another one:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_h5L0bq0pIhY/R7FoL0nKdWI/AAAAAAAAAjc/EeP5Fa0J7tA/s320/dumagat_girl.jpg
http://bp3.blogger.com/_h5L0bq0pIhY/R7FngknKdPI/AAAAAAAAAik/7Xvqh0ABPuo/s1600-h/aeta_kids.jpg
the little girl in the black shirt
this woman’s child would look like any other fili:
http://www.joshuaproject.net/profiles/photos/p13464.jpg
and this kid here looks like a fili to me:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevdiggs/368699008/
Now it’s obvious that mixing has continue until this day.And those mixed blood have gone into you guys over the generations.Now all of you might have negrito blood,but i’m pretty sure a lot of you do
Now no not all white people are mixed with recent black people.Now let me explain to you,Africans(black ones),African Americans,caribbean,etc.Have been getting it on,and producing children with white people for thousands of yrs.
Alessandro de’ Medici, Duke of Florence
guess who he married,and what his children looked like:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_95WNMjZfoTI/TUrp3hFylbI/AAAAAAAAACE/920Q9a4l6Bc/s640/41_00250454%257E_girolamo-macchietti_alessandro-de%2527-medici—nach-macchietti.jpg
Alexander Pushkin
guess what his grandfather was
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/A.S.Pushkin.jpg
this is his grandfather
Abram Petrovich Gannibal guess who he married:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Gannibal_I_A.jpg/220px-Gannibal_I_A.jpg
read who he married
George Bridgetower
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bridgetower
Alexandre Dumas,guess who he married:
http://illkeepyouposted.typepad.com/.a/6a00e55127ad3588330120a5e600c9970c-800wi
Samuel Coleridge-Taylor:
look at his family
I could go on if you want.This was just a sample to show that white and black had children in europe,and the child growup to marry white people,and produce white children,who looked like any other white kid
meant to say all of you might not have recent heritage,but I sure alot of you do
Wow.
Well, Hailee’s profile, outside of this website, did say that she was part African-American for the longest. I did not know this was false until today.
To dolphin
Yes (negritos) are the little black people.now granted,levels might be low They are in Asia(last time I checked) on the islands on that side of the world.Filipinos were black until Europeans came along,some still are.In Andaman Islands,Malaysia and southern Thailand and some other places.Their nickname was(Philippines “Negritos” (Little Blacks).Anyhow it’s a big mess over there,and no one embraces that part of their heritage blah blah.Black or dark skin is looked down on etc.Dna changes so they say were not them,were more related to these over here blah blah.So right to it,if she’s filipino then yes most likely she’s negrito also.However since it’s a big mess,that’s the reason I didn’t bring it up.
@nope
Whether she’s African American or not,if she’s part fili then she is part black(negritos).No matter what she looks like,that’s a true fact
@ nope
Actually it was you coming at him,assuming he wanted to claim that girl,which is the dumbest thing I ever hear.He put up what he saw on every web site that stated her ethnicity,and you attacked him like he put them there.Also everyone knows how filipinos like you are,with skin lighting creams,try to get lighter,to keep from looking like the others on the island.Also you have no idea what the the girls rep would do,you don’t know that person anymore than I do.Even vin dens deny he was black by saying he was just italian.So don’t give me that about her rep would lie.It’s been shown in history celebs who have black but look white would do whatever they think they need to protect their career.Also the guy wasn’t try to say she part black,he was talking to someone,plus he did say just thinging.Plus you don’t know what’s in charlize’s background.It’s been shown that you can be as white ss the whitest white person,and still have black blood.
Huh? If you are part Filipino, you are part black? What? I guess . . .
You have got to be kidding me.I pretty sure that (nope) is doing this down rating of peoples comments,because he’s childish like that.However to doubt a Filipino whose says they have black blood,now that’s sad
lolz, negrito? now ur claiming dat filos are part black now? lolz, even if filipinos hav negrito blood it’s way 2 small to be considered as being part black. most of us look like our south east asian neighbours rather than negritos.
negritos:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_h5L0bq0pIhY/R7Fnj0nKdTI/AAAAAAAAAjE/XEJvBU_MhQU/s320/Ati_woman.jpg
http://www.ethnicgroupsphilippines.com/uploads/ethnic-groups/ati.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_h5L0bq0pIhY/R7K3YUnKdhI/AAAAAAAAAk0/2g0PEnlEcXI/s320/page32_4.jpg
filipino austronesians:
http://aibeshe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/4a567__thia-megia-live-275×366.jpg
http://www.pep.ph/images/writeups/0872fc08f.jpg
http://www.graffitiverite.com/basco.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_O0v1GNzrYvA/TFQ_abWksUI/AAAAAAAABF4/3IQ_7lyyP_s/s1600/joseph.jpg
http://28.media.tumblr.com/7key1EhQRojkpt7amoUpTLVRo1_400.jpg
http://lifeisreallybeautiful.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/danica-magpantay-with-mom-and-former-super-model-lala-flores.jpg
http://yfittopostblogsg.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/blog_manny.jpg%3Fw%3D513
@nope:did you read what you yourself just wrote,?Even if we are,how much do you need?It said .2 to 11% make you part of what ancestors were.Show just the lighter ones don’t fool anyone.now what if someone just showed the darker ones
yo fuzzybear, ur clearly obsessed wid me since u keep assuming dat i was da one down rating pplz’ commentz! lolz, plz stop wid da guessing coz uve been guessing wrong most of da time! lolz, what a freakin know it all u r. u even claim 2 know more about hailee’s heritage than she does lolz, how pathetic iz dat? since u can’t claim hailee to be one of ur own, now ur trying 2 claim her as part black coz filipinos apparently hav negrito blood? hahaha ur even more ridiculous than i thought. like i said, stick wid wat u know, since u obviously dont know nethin bout our history, culture, and ppl!
@wtf, everyone came from africa rite? so does dat make us all black now? including da europeans? plz stfu! we are not part black, coz if we are, we would still look like negritoz! and no, we didn’t end up becoming lighter coz we mixed wid da spaniard either! and no, wateva negrito blood we may have, it’s so small dat it’s negligible.
if we had a larger negrito admixture, dis pinoy guy lwouldnt look diff. 2 dis negrito kidz:
http://outoftownblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/melo-with-negritos.jpg
u wanna knoe bout filipino dna/genetics?
A Stanford University study conducted during 2001 revealed that Haplogroup O3-M122 (labeled as “Haplogroup L” in this study) is the most common Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup found among Filipinos. This particular haplogroup is also predominant among Chinese, Koreans, and Vietnamese. Another haplogroup, Haplogroup O1a-M119 (labeled as “Haplogroup H” in this study), is also found among Filipinos. The rates of Haplogroup O1a are highest among the Taiwanese aborigines, and Chamic-speaking people. Genetic data found among a sampling of Filipinos may indicate some relation to the Ami tribe of Taiwan.[52]
A 2008 genetic study showed no evidence of a large-scale Taiwanese migration into the Philippine Islands. A study by Leeds University and published in Molecular Biology and Evolution, showed that mitochondrial DNA lineages have been evolving within Island Southeast Asia (ISEA) since modern humans arrived approximately 50,000 years ago. Population dispersals occurred at the same time as sea levels rose, which resulted in migrations from the Philippine Islands into Taiwan within the last 10,000 years.[53]
A 2002 China Medical University study indicated that some Filipinos shared genetic chromosome that is found among Asian people, such as Taiwanese aborigines, Indonesians, Thais, and Chinese.[54]
A variety of research study by the University of the Philippines, genetic chromosome were found in Filipinos which are shared by people from different parts of East Asia, and Southeast Asia. The predominant genotype detected was SC, the Southeast Asian genotype.[55]
Filipinos were black until Europeans came along,some still are.
if dats da case, den y did da europeans call majority of da filipinos as indios instead of negrito if dey were all black b4 da spaniards came. and btw, post da link 2 show us how u managed 2 research dat .2 to 11percent ancestry dat u claim pinoyz have!
here we go again, another afrocentrist! negritos may have mixed wid some filipinoz but dat doesnt mean dat all filipinoz are part negrito! dats like saying all white americans must be mixed african american juz coz afro americans have white admixture in them.
@nope
If you stop bypassing other posts,you see he took it back,however you have no idea what your ancestors looked like 400yrs ago.they most likely were very dark,and you aren’t that bright now.Also percentages don’t have to be high for you to take traits.Also it 400yrs of european visits,genes could be right in there,then you spread it around by remating with other.Plus negritos are every bit filipino,since they are the originals.Also the only real difference between you and them is skin color and sometimes hair.Also no your black heritage is not that long ago.black asian were still in china just a 100yrs ago,black asian were the founders of all the anicent cultures over there.Also you have been told blood is blood,it doesn’t tell you what a person looks like.everything over blood says asian,but as you can clearly see you guys looked different,just like with any culture.That’s the same old trick people love to try.
To nope
Now you keep saying even if we did have,which leads me to believe that you know it’s possible.Also even if it’s small it’s still there.Also negritos weren’t the only source of black blood at that time.Then you show pics the same way anyone whose trying to trick people do,by selecting exactly what you want people to see
Fili girl:
http://heyjoe.ph/wp-content/uploads/Feature_Image/Filipina_Hottie-1062.jpg
http://www.jaderune.com/pix150_199/191mylene.jpg
Even your baby dolls don’t look like the women you chose:
Filipina barbie:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/4514290434/
I just pick this girl because she’s hot
http://gi126.photobucket.com/groups/p108/OA9FMV4LRR/Somalia-Filipino.jpg
The presence of diminutive Africoids (whom Chinese historians called “Black Dwarfs”) in early southern China during the period of the Three Kingdoms (ca. 250 C.E.) is recorded in the book of the Official of the Liang Dynasty (502-556 C.E.). In Taiwan there are recollections of a group of people now said to be extinct called “Little Black Man.”
The original Black population who lived in China were the Negritos and Austroloid groups. After 5000 BC, Africoid people from Kush in Africa began to enter China and Central Asia from Iran, while another groups reached China by sea. This two-route migration of Blacks to China led to the development of southern and northern Chinese branches of Africoids. The Northern Chino-Africans were called Kui-shuang (Kushana) or Yueh-chih, while the southern tribes were called Yi and li-man Yueh and Man. In addition to the Yueh Tribes along the north east coastal region, Blacks also lived in Turkestand, Mongolia, Transoxiana, the Ili region and Xinjiang Province.
Blacks in China and the Invasion of the Mongols
The skeletal remains from Southern China are predominately Negroid. The people of that era practiced single burials which is an African ritual. In northern China Blacks founded many civilizations. The three major empires of China were the Xia Dynasty (c.2205-1766 BC), Shang Yin Dynasty (c.1700-1050 BC) and the Zhou Dynasty. The Zhou dynasty was the first dynasty founded by the Mongoloid people in China called Hua (Who-aa). The founders of Xia and Shang came from the Fertile African Crescent by way of Iran. Chinese civilization began along the Yellow River. By 3500 BC. Blacks in China were raising silkworms and making silk. The culture hero Huang Di is a direct link of Africa. His name was pronounced in old Chinese Yuhai Huandi or “Hu Nak Kunte.” He arrived in China from the west in 2282 BC and settled along the banks of the Loh River in Shanxi. This transliteration of Huandgi, to Hu Nak Kunte is interesting because Kunte is a common clan name among the Manding speakers. The Africans or Blacks that founded civilization in China were often called Li Min “black headed people” by the Zhou dynasts. This term has affinity to the Sumero-Akkadian term Sag- Gig-Ga “black headed people
Put it this way there were a lot of blackness running all through there,that all asians call home
O_o
We know what our ancestors looked like because we have records & pictorials & burials of them. The Spaniards wrote about the native Filipinos in great detail as opposed to the negritos they saw. Pls don’t lie or make things up for your own convenience. Filipinos who are Austronesian have olive skin that ranges from light to tan which can get sunburned to dark brown. This is characteristic of our skin. Also genetic studies have shown that though most negritos/aetas have significant austronesian ancestry, very little of the rest of Filipinos have negrito ancestry, less that 1% even. That’s because the Phils is made up of island chains, an archipelago that separated people creating more than 170 languages even. Also, the negritos were very few, isolated in certain areas only with high mortality rates & are hunter gatherers, no agriculture, they remain in the stone age up to this day. Austronesians were primarily seafarers who were considered the best sailors in the ancient world thousands of years ago. They were agriculturalists, fishermen, warriors, & metal smiths. They had a highly strict social strata like all Austronesian cultures, there is little incentive to interbreed with negritos. Also, aside from the fact that science dictates the general Austronesian Filipinos have less than 1% negrito ancestry, the negritos themselves are misconstrued to be Black. DNA studies have shown that they are Australoids, they as an ethnic group are the farthest people from Blacks, Caucasians are actually closer to Blacks than they are. Also Australoids have significant blondism in their population as well. Also don’t call them negritos, that is a derogatory term, they are itas or aetas. Again, pls refrain from making up facts.
lol, dat girl is dark, not black, and not every filipino looks like dat. u seem 2 not be aware dat da philippinez is a tropical country and da more u spend time outside in da sun, da darker u get. dats y lighter skin is prized in asian countries. coz it shows dat da person iz wealthy enough 2 stay indoors and avoid da sun while da poorer pplz work outside.
here’s a tibetan who has dark skin from being out in da sun:
http://images.cdn.fotopedia.com/flickr-3937705525-image.jpg
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-03/18/xin_592030618081028109561.jpg
plz dnt tell me dat those pplz are a result of being mixed wid negrito as well 2 explain their dark skin. lolz.
oh and i’m selecting now, lolz wtf, look whose talkin. ur da one who posted a pic of a somalian flip chick and ur telling me im selective. lolz. at least i dnt post mixed pplz to showcase wat a flip lookz like. da celebs i posted are all typical looking unmixed flipz, and if u think those are not typical lookz den u obviously noe nothin bout my pplz. lolz. y do u think charice pempengco neva became popular in da philz? coz she lookz 2 common 2 da pplz. thia megia, dante basco, and tia carrere wud all be considered common lookin in da philz. and these are what unmistakable flip beauties lookz like:
http://www.abs-cbn.com/Portals/0/showbuzz/062609-precious.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sm-Eb8kPvW4/TL_9LuB716I/AAAAAAAAAyw/R6FP-VJt4e8/s1600/Diana+Zubiri.JPG
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3578/3567838006_61607f14c2.jpg?v=0
http://www.abs-cbn.com/Portals/0/Showbuzz/013109-Alma.jpg
lolz, i cant believe u actually posted a flip barbie doll. it lookz like a typical barbie doll except it’s got darker skin. and it’s still not black, coz dis is what a black barbie doll lookz like:
http://thirstyroots.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/black-barbie-doll-natural-hair.jpg
wateva black gene dat asians have is from da past. everyone came from africa so we’d all be considered, every human, as having black origins. if asians hav black origins, so do europeanz. in fact, europeanz are closer 2 africanz than asianz are. so yeah, europeanz are black juz as much as asianz are lolz.
@nope
That is not the real reason people don’t want to be dark.You guys have been living under European caste system for 500yrs,which say it’s better to had light skin.Also your reading a web site word for word,that’s what funny.Those are not your own opinions,I saw the same web site.Also I believe that’s what he is saying,it look nothing like the women you posted.while over here,Barbie comes in all the colors of the people here.
Also that barbie you posted,were for actual black African girl,that looked like them,but your filipino one looked nothing like the women you posted(and the filipino doll didn’t match you women).Also I do believe he said that their were more black people in those Areas than negritos.Also black people have continue to go to those areas all through the centuries,Now before the aryan invasion,white slavery and things like that,different blacks groups ruled those areas(like Dravidians),and those black people were their ancestors.Also over the centuries,there have been alot of mixing,and moving around,people don’t stay put.
I believe he said he put that girl up just because she looked good,if you look again.
So you saying the ones he put(the first two)were mixed?
Also I actually know a good amount of Filipinos,and they did look like the women you posted,they were darker but unmixed
Now charice pempengco to me the fits the model of what you guys wish to look like:
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_B08IY02qer20N4Us1K3CWpn9ENOa2ruR2JAXieJgtPwEItZ07A
to me she looks like a chinese chick
Now tia carrere even goes from light to dark,because your natural skin tone is to be dark.But I see the commercials,on how to bleach your skin,it’s one of the biggest business over there:
http://www.alibaba.com/countrysearch/PH/skin-bleaching.html
Because of the caste system,black is bad
@nope
even if it in the past,it still part of you.Plus you have been getting visits all through the centuries from black people,the World wars for example was a very popular time ,I believe he also stated that,but I see you bypass it.also european do have that heritage,you actually thought euro’s were pure white?He’s been putting things up here for the longest time showing that Europeans have that fairly recent heritage.Black people have been all over Europe,you really didn’t know this?I think you need to go check history,and stop with the silly laugh.
Now it’s called assimilation,traits disappear,but blood is still there,and shows itself in different ways
omg, wtf, u r such a moron! i didnt effin post dat stupid pic of dat flip barbie chick! it wuz ur frend fuzzbear lolz. c now u dnt even noe wat ur talkin about. and der are more black pplz in those areaz dan negritoz? hey moron, negritoz are black wat da eff r u on bout?
diff. between a negrito and indio flip:
http://outoftownblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/melo-with-negritos.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4056/4554688148_f412c4625c.jpg
and no, deyr not selected picz of light skinned flipz either. if u want light skinned flipz, those are da white mixed flip chickz like marian rivera or angelica panganiban. and hell no, charice isnt wat a flip aspirez 2 look like! lolz, r u freekin nutz? tell dat 2 any flip and deyll tell u ur crazy lolz. and no, who sed we wna look chinese? we dnt even like chinese eyez! lolz. and btw dumbass, most of us have chinese ancestry anyway so her lookz are NOT uncommon, and if u want proof ill post u a pic of even my own family as proof of it.
and herez sum oder famouz flip americanz and no one’s ever mistaken dem 4 black even wid der tanz:
http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/mus/pr/2007/jasmine.jpg
http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/mus/pr/2007/jasmine.jpg
http://www.alivenotdead.com/attachments/2010/10/09/15/352636_201010091503013.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wV23QdEahKU/SUCGXsxA8jI/AAAAAAAAAGs/bwbKitVzpm8/s400/8331new-legaci.jpg
http://www.40acres.com/images/stories/Matthew_Libatique.jpg
http://theneptunes.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/bbc-icecream-launch-3.jpg
az 4 ur comment dat tia carrere goez from light 2 dark coz our natural skin color is 2 be dark, ur clearly an idiot. a black person wud never be able to go lighter coz deyr black to begin wid. i alredy posted 2 u wat flip beauties look like and flipz wud rather look like dem dan look like charice. she’s known in da philz as da plain gurl wid da good voice.
here’s sum flip fanz wid charice and u tell me how much charice standz out frm dem lolz:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2515/3686919324_12eaa45e12.jpg
normal typical flipz:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1352/1283967548_bedce73d9d.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3215/2678475422_778c1fb440.jpg
http://www.senate.gov.ph/photo_release/2007/1126_04.jpg
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/24049_393679679544_97237194544_3862710_1487257_n.jpg
http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Everyone%20Else/images-4/filipino-people.jpg
http://www.sd12pares.com/images/april08_047_op_800x600.jpg
and also, most flipz wud prefer tia carrere’s lookz ova charice. she’z a gr8 singer and all but no way iz she wat we consider a beauty in da philz. she’s common lookin and considered plain. dats y dey even made a story of her life wer she sed dat she had a hard time tryin 2 get in2 dis singing competition coz da tv network ddnt thnk she waz pretty and stood out enuff. she sayz no one noticed her mch till da koreans noticed her videos posted online. u obviously ddnt bother checkin dat info out b4 u start sayin sh*t like dat about hw flipz aspire 2 look like her. read comments from flipz about her, dey all say she can sing but is plain or common lookin.
@nope
I’m not talking about whose prettier,I talking about skin color.You know good and well that light skin in your culture is preferred,and don’t try to deny it
You Said Most Likely! Why?
I have been reading your post for a long time. and i do not mind some of them but saying filipinos was black until the spanish came is ridicolous. Most filipinos are South east Asians. The negritos were a minority. The Spanish saw them in Negros island. They name the island after them. Most filipinos are genetically asians. Closely related to Taiwanese Aboringens (Pre Chinese Population of Taiwan) and To Indonesians and Malaysians. East Indonesians are the ones who are part asian part papuan/melanesian. I do not mind your post before but saying filipinos were black until the spanish came is ridiculous and to me you seem to be afrocentrist in some of your post. I would have understand if you have said indonesians because it make sense for them.
Filipinos are not part black. The negritos are part Filipinos. The majority of Filipinos are related to Taiwanese Aborigines. It’s ridiculous for you to claim Filipinos were black until the Spanish. East Indonesians are the ones who are most likely part Asian part papuan/melanesian. The majority of Filipinos do not have any negrito blood. You need do more research on Filipinos and some of the test they have done on the population before you start saying stuff. Indonesians would have made sense of all south east asians that you would claim as part black.
u clearly are ignorant of filipino history. NO, filipinos were NOT BLACK b4 the spaniards came. most filipinos are NOT MIXED with spanish blood. dey look exactly da same way dey did before the spaniards came as dey do now. in case u didn’t know, da majority of da filipinos in da philippines are austronesians, who came from southern china and spread throughout south east asia up to the pacific islands. even if filipinos have negrito blood, it’s so small dat it would negligible.
tia carrere is another good example of an austronesian filipino:
http://www.aroundhawaii.com/assets/articles/2007/07/933/images/tia_3.jpg
and no, she ain’t mixed with spanish or hawaiian blood.
once again, hailee is not part black. she is like phoebe cates who is filipino and jewish, same with rob schneider.
hailee steinfeld
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/bg/Hailee+Steinfeld+Teen+Vogue+8th+Annual+Young+lnIpl6e1N0Kl.jpg
phoebe cates
http://www.iceposter.com/thumbs/G93203_b.jpg
rob schneider
http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/ld/expendables_premiere_3_040810/rob_schneider_5523111.jpg
none of them are part black! so plz get ova it!
To total23
I said that because not all filipino have recent negrito heritage,the avg I think is about (.2-11%).However Negrito,is a common name for a whole bunch of different groups of little black people.They were all over Asia,the Philippines,Thailand etc
To 111
have to make this quick
South east Asians were black people,and some still are.You even have a Filipino telling you that they are part Negrito . Are you kidding,Negritos,covered almost all of asia.They were not a minority,they were all over the place.Also that just the name(Negrito) they gave to put all the little black people in one box(just like with everyone else they differ in appearance.Negrito(little negro)also the called them moors which is the name the Spanish explorers called the black people who lived in asia.You have the Sakai of Thailand, the Orang Asli of Malaysia,The presence of diminutive Africoids (whom Chinese historians called “Black Dwarfs”).The The Saisiyat tribe of Hsinchu and Miaoli perform a solemn rite,to the Little Black People,they were in Yemen,Nepal,the Andaman Islands,in India,the lists go on.Also everyone over there is genetically asians,That doesn’t mean a person not black,which as you can clearly see they are,you don’t have to be fresh out of Africa to be that.It’s just DNA which is always changing(brought on by diseases etc).Also I have done research,that’s how I found the ((.2-11%).I’ll get back to this later
To 111
Ok I’ll take this part back(Filipinos were black until Europeans came along)because I have no proof,However you have no proof that they weren’t.However like I said the europeans did not just see negritos on ( Negros island)as you call it,they were all over Asia.The ones at the Saisiyat tribe of Hsinchu and Miaoli tribes only disappeared 100yrs ago.However if you know more than me show me,I’m ready to learn
Ok I’ll take this part back(Filipinos were black until Europeans came along)because I have no proof,However you have no proof that they weren’t.
da proof comes from da spaniards themselvez who had a name for da austronesian flips – indios, and a name for da black flips – negritos!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filipino_mestizo
Negrito(little negro)also the called them moors which is the name the Spanish explorers called the black people who lived in asia.
no, da spaniards never called da negritos moors in da philippines! if ur talking about da moros, dey were muslims who lived in mindanao who were given dat name coz of der religion!
The term Moro was a derogatory word used in the 16th century in reference to the shared Islamic belief between the tribal groups in the Philippines and the ethnically different Moors of Al-Andalus in Spain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors
@nope
you use wiki,omg.european called the in ones asia moors,then later negrito.also it a fact that almost all of asia was run by black skin asians,until they were push down.Also logs by the europeans stating the island they went to were fill with war like little black people.on top of that,you still haven’t show that filipino were black or real dark skin
@nope
that says the people of today,who follow islam.not 400yrs ago.when the spaniard called you a moor back then,they meant black
you use wiki,omg.european called the in ones asia moors,then later negrito. also it a fact that almost all of asia was run by black skin asians,until they were push down.Also logs by the europeans stating the island they went to were fill with war like little black people. on top of that,you still haven’t show that filipino were black or real dark skin
OMG, at least i have a source unlike ur quotes wer u dont even have any back up info at all 4 ur claimz! and warlike black little pplz? listen doofus, da spanish ppl called majority of da flipz as INDIOS NOT NEGRITOZ! little black ppl meanz negritoz in spanish! but da majority of da flips were called indios when da spaniards first came 2 da islandz, datz a historical fact, so plz stop assuming or making up crap! and dark skin doesnt mean black either. datz like saying native american indians were black coz dey had dark skin lolz:
historical picz of indioz filipinos:
http://www.rosings.com/ifugao.jpg
http://www.rumsua.org/images/ifugao-man_p4x9.jpg
http://static.lulu.com/product/hardcover/a-history-of-the-philippines-from-indios-bravos-to-filipinos/9819536/thumbnail/320
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/PHILIPPINE_Indio.JPG/250px-PHILIPPINE_Indio.JPG
modern day filipinoz:
http://www.pep.ph/images/guide/335bf03e4.jpg
http://www.mascotchristianfellowship.com/missions/images/scfs/seafarer_origin_Filipinos2.jpg
http://www.news.nfo.ph/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/poea_job_fair.jpg
as you can see, not much has changed at all. ur average flip looked exactly da same as he did 400 yearz ago.
btw, indianz or indios didnt mean black either, coz american nativez from both south and north america were also clld indianz and dey didnt look black at all. da spaniards had a word 4 black ppl, either negro or negritoz. da word moor means dark, not black, coz a lot of da ppl dat spaniardz considered as moorz were arabs or mixed pplz who were muslimz.
http://www.hispanicmuslims.com/andalusia/Abercrombie.html
negrito aint da same as moro!
moros:
http://www.morolandhistory.com/02.PG-Moros/3.moros_c1900.htm
negritos:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3223/2937290514_8eae170509.jpg
@111
how are they part filipino,they are the founding population.You are trying to confine them to south east asian,when they once were all over the place.Now also,do you have any proof that they were not black,because like what was said,the europeans said they saw black people who they called moors.Now your basing your view on the color of the people you see today,and your assuming that how they always looked.however like most people,that seem to be how your judging things.Just like with the people of the hawaii,who not to long ago were quite aboriginal looking,but you wouldn’t know it by looking at some of them today.Now you can show what a twi aboriginal looked like all those years ago right?Because I’ve seen drawings of people who some were painted whitish while other were black.We don’t know when the mutation that changes asians the way they are now took place.Also that dna testing has been very limited.So like whats been said,just because their blood says asian,it doesn’t change the outward appearance.They are the original people,so their blood would be asian,they’ve been in asia for who knows how long
@111
I found this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVROIRgDCPs&feature=related
Now going by this guy Robert Lindsay,the filipinos are basically chinese,so if the Chinese are basically negrito,how are the filipinos not negrito?Also all of SE Asia was populated by negritos.it also say It was common knowledge 100 years ago that Filipinos had little Negrito in them,so how are they not part black
Also show me what the Twi aboriginals look like 400yrs ago
to nope
Again you show pics of people in the 1900’s,I said show me the fili’s from 4-or 500yrs ago.
Also the word moor meant black,they keep changing the definition
These were the Arabs they were talking about:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Cavalier_arabe_du_D%C3%A9kakir%C3%A9_sur_un_cheval_capara%C3%A7onn%C3%A9.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8M1ey6U5io
http://www.thechessdrum.net/historicmoments/photos/AlgerianMoors.jpg
http://www.historyfish.net/images/costume/af_moorish_men.jpg
http://api.ning.com/files/4Im7OXThO5*G8dp*Q-I85dtP85cW56GTfScftPM6F-xyddths7RlO7MCNmj1W8V2eR0S6Q0wYywoPZyT5XJUIz9gXLLV7cfl/moorishpower.jpg
http://rpmedia.ask.com/ts?u=/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Saint_Maurice_Magdeburg.jpg/57px-Saint_Maurice_Magdeburg.jpg
Moors like this,black men.I can give you laws about what moors were.I might be a rookie when your stuff,but believe I’m dam good when it come down to mine
To nope
Dude,not one of those pictures was from 400yrs ago,not even close to 400 yrs ago
to nope
Again you show pics of people in the 1900′s,I said show me the fili’s from 4-or 500yrs ago.
Also the word moor meant black,they keep changing the definition
same goez 4 u, show me picz where dey meant moorz 2 be actual black ppl 400 yearz ago and not juz arabs or mixed pplz! da spaniardz called most of da flipz indioz, NOT NEGRITOZ WHICH MEANT LITTLE BLACK PPLZ. even if da moroz were considered black, dat doesn’t still explain da fact dat most of da filipinoz were called indioz by da spaniardz and NOT negritoz or moroz!
To nope
here’s a law showing what moors were,grant it only 240 yrs old:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors_Sundry_Act_of_1790
Plus I gave you saint Maurice,a knight
The Song of roland,describe what the moors looked like.When your as black as ink ,with eyes of fire,and the only thing white about you is you teeth,your black
look it up
fuzzbear, most of us are not mixed wid spanish at all and wer did u get da idea dat chinese are 90 percent negrito? lolz, try telling dat 2 a chinese n see if dey dont get pissed at u. ever seen a chinese person? dey do not resemble a negrito. da earliest skeleton in da philippines didnt come frm a negrito. so no, dey werent da original settlers of da land at all. ur juz pulling factz out of ur ass, u keep trying 2 insist da we’re 90 percent negrito wen derz no evidence of dat! everyone started off in africa or may be even black but dat doesnt mean we’re black. and if want proof dat da spaniards thot most of indio flips were physically diff. to da negritos, check out dis site which lists actual historical info about what da spaniards described da flips when dey first saw dem. none of dem described da flipz as being black:
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=15KZU-yMuisC&pg=PA17&lpg=PA17&dq=physical+description+filipinos+by+the+spaniards&source=bl&ots=ld34hFRV2R&sig=ZQ5ArnolEFffDHIySrOmNWPGZw0&hl=en&ei=ZKmETcmPNsPBca21nZUD&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDIQ6AEwBDgK#v=onepage&q&f=false
even if most of da negritos were absorbed through intermarriage, dat doesnt mean dat all flipz have negrito blood. its like saying white americanz are mixed african american juz coz african americanz have white ancestry.
To nope
it say it in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVROIRgDCPs&feature=related
how ridiculous some of these afrocentrists are! well, u might as well claim dat everyone is black coz we all came out of africa rite? even the whitest person out der is black if we go back far enuff lolz! i think we mite know more about our history, culture, and our people more than u afrocentrists. stick wid ur own culture and history coz u clearly know nothing bout us! and stop trying to insist dat hailee is part black wen she isn’t! she already said her grandpa was pinoy, not black. so get ova it!
Ok show a picture of a filipino from 400yrs ago,not from now or a hundred but from 400
Well I was finish with hailee a long time ago,that’s you stuck on her.Also it’s you who doesn’t know your history,if you don’t know your ancestor were the black people who covered all of that area less than 3000yrs ago. On top of the conquest by people like the egyptians.
@nope
Also you keep showing me people of today,but not one from 400yrs ago
To nope
you speak for these other celebs,do you know them?Have you known their families for generations?No you haven’t,so please cut it out.
Here’s more stuff on the black blood in Asia:
China was occupied predominately by Blacks from West Asia to China. Blacks were forced from East and Southeast Asia by the expansion of the Thai, Annamite, Bak and Hua Mongoloids. Blacks ruled China until around 1000-700 BC. Blacks of China were known in historical literature by many names, including Negro, Austroloid, Oceanean, etc. by the Europeans. The East Indians and Mongoloid groups had other names like Dara, Yneh-chih, Yaksha, Suka, K’un-lun, Lushana and Seythians.
In Southeast Asia and southern China, ancient skeletal remains represented the earliest inhabitants to be Austroloids and Negrillo/Negrito. By the beginning of the Present (Holocene) Period the population in China could be differentiate, and placed into categories designating Mongoloid in the north, and Oceanic or Black Races in the south. Below is an excerpt from Nsaka Sesepkekiu -Student of African and Asian Studies – University of the West Indies -Trinidad and Tobago who validates what is being said:
Around 500 BCE an African living in India called Gautama would establish a religion called Buddhism which would come to dominate Chinese thought. Any one who is in doubt should consult Geoffrey Higgins’s Anacalypsis, Albert Churchward’s Origin and Development of Religions, Gerald Massey’s, Egypt the Light of the World, Runoko Rashidi’s African Presence in Early Asia and J A Roger’s Sex and Race Vol. 1. Many Africans survived the Mongol invasion into the twentieth century only to be exterminated by Chairman Mao’s program of Cultural cleansing. Under this program millions of Africans and Afro-Asians were killed from 1951-1956. Contribute we still did, giving the People’s Republic of China its first Chief Minister in the name of Eugene Chen, a Trinidadian of George Street, Port-of-Spain, who was of an African mother and a Chinese father
This latest research finding by Chinese scientists and their international colleagues concluded that modern humans might have moved from Africa to China replacing Mono erectus (archaic upright- walking human beings) there to become the ancestors of the country ‘s modern humans.
The conclusion is based on the comparison and analysis of Y- chromosome DNA using samples of the extant 88 populations living in East Asia, Southeast Asia and the Oceania, says Li Jin, one of the Chinese researchers of the study “Chinese Human Genome Diversity Project.”
Li Jin is a professor of both the National Human Genome Center in Shanghai and the Institute of Genetics of Fudan University.
Also I finish with Hailee,I don’t know why you keep bring her up
Also you mention about going back far enough white people would be black.well we don’t have to go that far back.According to recent Dna tests says that 1 in 3 white Americans have recent black blood in the range (2-20%)
However 1958 Robert Stuckert produced a statistical analysis using historical census data and immigration statistics. He concluded that the growth in the White population could not be attributed to births in the White population and immigration from Europe alone, but also from a significant contribution from the American Black population as well. He concluded that at the time, 21 percent of white Americans had some recent African (or African-American) ancestors
So as you can see,we don’t have to go back that far.Now you ask me to stick to what I know,and I most definitely know this
To nope
One other thing,you say your self,you people come from southern china.And according to that video and the stuff I just looked up,Chinese are 90 negrito.So if you come from those people,you are negrito.You might look different,but they are still you ancestors.Now just because you think your better than them doesn’t change that.I mean even we AA don’t completely look like our ancestor here.So how are you going to say your ancestors 4 or 500yrs ago look just like you,you guys weren’t isolated;a number of people paid you guys a visit
Now I found this kinda interesting:
There was a lot of non fili Dna on them Islands.
Through centuries of intermarriage, Filipinos had become a unique blend of Malay, Chinese, Spanish, Negrito, and American. Among the earliest inhabitants were Negritos, followed by Malays, who deserve most of the credit for developing lowland Philippine agricultural life as it is known in the modern period. As the Malays spread throughout the archipelago, two things happened. First, they absorbed, through intermarriage, most of the Negrito population, although a minority of Negritos remained distinct by retreating to the mountains
http://countrystudies.us/philippines/35.htm
@wtf, if photoz were available 400 yearz ago i’d happily show u one but we can only rely on wat da spaniardz said and dey called da majority of flipz as indioz and da black flipz as negritoz! and plz dont tell me da spaniards are unreliable and werent telling da truth either when dey distinguished da indio flipz from da negrito flipz. lolz.
and if we were 2 go by hailee’s last name steinfeld it’s so close to jerry seinfeld’s last name dat i wudnt be surprised if dey have similar jewish originz.
hailee’s uncle:
http://images.zap2it.com/images/celeb-154710/jake-steinfeld-1.jpg
hailee and her mom and dad:
http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/le/virtuoso_awards_050211/hailee_steinfeld_5603843.jpg
hailee can pass for an asian mixed person coz of her eyes.
she lookz like dis filipina mixed actress rhian ramos:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_c2eHHmBm_pY/ScaXGXmpfQI/AAAAAAAACck/LqSyXHO6_2I/s400/rhian-ramos-showbiz-central.JPG
To nope
Dude why do you keep bring hailee,I don’t care about her.
Now that’s what I mean,you have no proof what your people looked like at that time,but you keep telling me that they were like you,and you don’t know that.You just prove my point
Mr body by jake is her uncle?Even I and my mother have Asian eyes,I never said she wasn’t asian,where did you get that?However anyhow I said I’m finish with her
fuzzybear, so u basically said dat everyone originated from africa. well done, we already noe dat. doez dat make filipinoz or south east asianz part black? no! we’re black juz as much as we all came from africa. doesn’t mean we’re black now though. we’re talking about thousands of years here, i wudnt call dat recent at all.
hailee has asian eyes coz of her asian ancestry.
she got her exotic look from her asian side:
http://images.wikia.com/truegrit/images/0/01/Hailee-port2.jpg
http://www.fullissue.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Hailee-Steinfeld.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/vdflvp.png
Now that’s what I mean,you have no proof what your people looked like at that time,but you keep telling me that they were like you,and you don’t know that.You just prove my point
my proof is from what da spaniards called uz! even if der are no pics of filipinos 400 years ago dey classified us as indioz, but had a diff. word 4 da black pplz of da philippines. dey called da black ppl negritoz! u didnt prove ur point coz u cant get past wat i juz said. datz historical fact, most every filipino knowz dat.
To nope
Why do you keep bring up hailee,you may have her with my blessing.I finish with her,were on something else here
Now I saying you have no idea what your fili looked like 400 yrs ago.From I can see,there been a whole lot of mixing going on.so you don’t know if they were black,green or purple.You know as much as I know about mine
Now here is a pic of a moor from 1500’s
http://www.codart.nl/exhibitions/details/1413/
Now did the artist see a black man?
Dude you have no idea what a indioz looked like 400 yrs ago,you basing you opinion,on what you see today or a hundred yrs ago;you can’t go by that
btw, eva heard of da ati atihan? datz wen da flipz wud paint der faces black 2 celebrate der friendship wid da negritoz. dis started way b4 da spaniardz came. if da flipz were black b4 da europeanz came, why did dey even start dat kind of festival? also da oldest skeleton in da philz was tabon man, who was not a negrito. so no, da negritoz werent da original settlers in da philz as well.
Ati Atihan:
The origin
In the thirteenth century, long before the Spaniards came to the Philippines, light-skinned immigrants from the island of Borneo (Kalimantan) in Indonesia arrived on Panay. The local people of Panay, the Ati (negritos), a small and dark (black) kinky-haired people, sold them a small piece of land and allowed them to settle down in the lowlands. The Atis themselves, lived more upland in the mountains.
One time the Ati people was in need of food because of a bad harvest in their homelands. They came down to the lowlands of the Maraynon and asked them food. Every year since then, the Atis came down to the lowland inhabitants to ask for some food. They danced and sang in gratitude for the helping hand. A real friendship was born and the Maraynon started to paint their faces black in honor of the Atis and took part in the fiesta.
well indio certainly didnt mean little black person since dat was spanish meaning of negrito! u mite as well claim dat da native american indians from both south n north america were black b4 da whitez came coz da white ppl also called dem indianz lolz! common sense seyz dat if da ppl in da philz were all black, dey wud hav called dem all negritoz instead of calling da majority indioz.
The term “Negrito” is the Portuguese and Spanish diminutive of negro, i.e. “little black person”, referring to their small stature, and was coined by early European explorers who assumed that the Negritos were recent arrivals from Africa.
Indio may refer to:
Indio, California
Indio, person of indigenous peoples of the Americas
The Spanish Colonial racial term for the native Austronesian peoples of the Philippines between the 16th and 19th centuries
To nope
btw, eva heard of da ati atihan? datz wen da flipz wud paint der faces black 2 celebrate der friendship wid da negritoz
Does now count?
To nope
Now here’s another about native Americans.I know they called them the red man,however many were actually dark brown;also many were hung being mistaken for AA.There are also other records of this,but I don’t have my notes.
However your under the idea that negritos were the only black people there.They varied in size and look,and have many different names.
Look I’m going to have to stop,in a lot of pain right now,you don’t practice voodoo do you?can concentrated ,pick this up another day
To nope
you didn’t read all the posts he put up here,he shown that 1-3 whites are shown to have recent black blood
lol so fuzzbear, ur saying dat da flips only look diff. now but dey all looked da same even though da story says dat da flips who first celebrated da ati atihan recognized da negritos as diff. from dem? and btw, going on ur logic how do u noe dat only black africans were considered as moors back den?
not all moors were depicted as black btw:
http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/thumbnail/126333/1/El-Beato-Juan-De-Ribera-En-La-Expulsi$E3$B3n-De-Los-Moriscos-$28the-Blessed-Juan-De-Ribera-In-The-Expulsion-Of-The-Moors$29.jpg
http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/images2/med_moors.jpg
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_SUBGzd1BG60/SXJQC2h35oI/AAAAAAABvxg/nOZaBHMeRdE/Goya,+Moors,+horses.jpg
http://www.artehistoria.com/historia/jpg/BAC09690.jpg
http://www.ibn-rushd.org/English/Ibn-Rushd-Bild1.JPG
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3489/3912286779_544f6531d3_z.jpg
da moorish ambassador 2 queen elizabeth da first:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MoorishAmbassador_to_Elizabeth_I.jpg
he sure lookz black now doesnt he? lolz
funny, not all of dem looked black like u claim. since u werent der, u dont noe what dey actually look like either and since da paintings themselves arent consistent, how do u noe dat dey were describing black africans and not arabs as well?
to fuzzbear, ur an idiot if u think dark skin is da same as black.
black ppl:
http://messengerandadvocate.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/sharing-food.jpg
http://alphaofhaiti.com/images/5_negritos_hambre.jpg
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/2360146.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FDE70D1F9DBA121DE94E3281AD84059D604EF812C34013C572A7CFF610D5B4FC25
dark skinned/olive ppl:
http://marketingcambodia.org/u1Cambodian_children.jpg
http://www.dahorafotografias.com/fotos/images/Indios-Pataxos.jpg
http://www.dailytravelphotos.com/images/2010/101219_beautiful_young_indian_girl_portrait_home_bijapur_karnataka_india_IMG_9172.jpg
only in da usa do u get pplz who dont look black coz deyr mixed who claim 2 be black lolz. i neva thot halle berry was black either, she’z a fool 4 even thinkin her daughter is black when she is more white dan black.
To nope
that first one was a Moriscos,which is a mixed blood moor.They could be any color,also all those other pics were the white wash ones,that racist like to use.The pic fuzz put up were more accurate
To nope
first halle baby look like her:
http://www.fashionfame.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/nahla-aubry.jpeg
Also I wouldn’t call that dark(brown,but not dark).However I do know dark skin is looked down on in your area.also some of you black pics wouldn’t be seen as black
because the arab armies were black Ethiopians soldiers,and later berber and sub-saharan.All of northwest a west africa was moorish(there were mixed bloods,in it to but the majority were black
Alright I think it’s time for you two to take break,been going at this all night
to nope
so your saying because we might have a little mixture,we’re not black?
to 321, if we’re goin by skin colour den no, i wudnt consider a lot of african americanz black. i def. dnt consider halle berry’z baby black. black 2 me meanz having black or very dark brown skin like dis:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Mwcf8T4Tk7o/SbGiOlnZssI/AAAAAAAAABs/7lFVJw7zHgo/s400/ghana_independence_2007_03_06.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__yPVEzeoaeY/TPmsm2EzEgI/AAAAAAAAAN8/143eH422oxM/s1600/Laura-Lyn+Blog1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/e/e8/20070810201610!Ati_woman.jpg
@nope
Now I’m looking at this:
http://filipinocultured.blogspot.com/2008/05/dark-skin-in-philippines-more-accepted.html
I’m looking at this,and seems you doing exactly what they say(quote):
Filipinos use the word ‘Filipino’ as if it were a race to refer to only those of brown-skinned Malay descent, as not all Filipinos have brown skin and wide noses
Also this was put up,says Malay assimilated the vast majority of negritos(intermarriage),and the malay are you guys,so negrito is in your bloodline,you can’t deny that,but I see you try.
Now I took this man here:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/aboriginal%20philippines/pbonner/negritos/negrito10s.jpg
and this men here:
http://www2.2space.net/images/upl_newsImage/1251145204.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/136380056
To me their skin looks almost exactly alike
Now you may say,that the first guy is mixed.then I’m asking you,how do you know that hasn’t happen alot over the centuries,over the last few generations?
@ nope
I forgot to add this kid to the pics:
Negrito kid
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevdiggs/368699008/
He’s negrito,so is he black,since that is what negritos are.
To:total23:it’s the Medicine hard to focus,lol
@total23
hey man it doesn’t matter,anything short of a thousand years is to recent for white people.Look at how they are crying about johnny depp
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