Halsey
Halsey at the MTV Movie And TV Awards held at the Barker Hangar in Santa Monica, USA on June 16, 2018. Photo by Starfrenzy/bigstock.com
Birth Name: Ashley Nicolette Frangipane
Place of Birth: Edison, New Jersey, U.S.
Date of Birth: September 29, 1994
Ethnicity:
*father – African-American, small amount of Irish
*mother – one half Italian, one quarter Hungarian, German, Irish
Halsey is an American singer, songwriter, and activist. She is also known by her given name Ashley Frangipane.
Halsey is the daughter of Nicole and Chris Frangipane. She has a son with her partner, screenwriter Alev Aydin.
She is biracial. She has said:
my dad is black and a little Irish and my mom is Italian and Hungarian!
Her mother’s ancestry includes one half Italian, one quarter Hungarian, and German and Irish. A picture of Halsey with her maternal grandmother can be seen here. A picture of Halsey’s parents can be seen here.
She has also said that a DNA test showed her genetic ancestry to include “Italian, Turkish, Nigerian, Senegalese, and British/Irish. lots of big surprises there.”
Halsey’s maternal grandfather is Richard Jacobs (the son of Steve Jacobs/Jacob and Lorraine Alice Christoff/Cristoff). Steve was the son of Hungarian parents, Frank Joseph Jakab/Jacob, from Gersekarát, Vas, and Maria/Mary Takacs, from Olaszfa, Vas. Lorraine was born in Hartford, Connecticut, the daughter of Emil Gustave Christoff/Christoffel/Cristoff and Lucinda Hickey. Emil was the son of German parents, Fredrich/Frederick C. Christoffel and Emilia/Amelia O. Thieme.
Halsey’s maternal grandmother is Annette Canace (the daughter of Vito Canace and Josephine Fortunata Minervino). Annette is of Italian descent, with roots in Calabria and Campania. Vito was born in New Jersey, the son of Dominick/Domenico Canace, who was born in Avellino, Campania, and of Maria Canace. Josephine was the daughter of Charles Minervino and Antoinette Barras.
Halsey in 2015, photo by Prphotos
Sources: Death record of Halsey’s maternal great-grandmother, Lorraine Alice (Christoff/Cristoff) Jacobs – https://www.familysearch.org
Halsey’s maternal great-great-grandfather, Emil Gustave Christoff/Christoffel/Cristoff, on the 1930 U.S. Census – https://www.familysearch.org
So she took a DNA test. She didn’t post the percentages of anything but specified some of the ethnicities she got…
https://twitter.com/halsey/status/1271524914063790080?s=21
https://twitter.com/halsey/status/1271525935720706048?s=21
https://twitter.com/halsey/status/1271527013166145536?s=21
she probably doesn’t want to show her whole result, because she must be less black than she thought. She was telling everyone that she felt like a black woman. I bet she only 20% black and her father itself looks biracial
Exactly. Cause if she was as black as she thought she was or even around it, she definitely would’ve been quick to show her results lmao idk why she’d think she’d get 50% anyway, I have biracial friends that have taken DNA tests & the afro featured darker ones are not even 50% black. They’re all in the 30s-40s % range & the whitest one is in the 20s % range. Which isn’t shocking.
What does it matter? You sound racist. Halseys dad is African American which equals black. Therefore Halsey is half black period. Arguing percentage is a futile waste of time because her so called white Italian mom likely has West African dna as she is Italian and many Italian people have African ancestry.
Defining and documenting race and ethnicity is the point this website, they didn’t sound racist as in, they did not or were not presenting any group as superior or inferior. Unless pointing out her omission of her full results seems antagonistic to you or something.
It matters probably because bi-racial people get over looked and lumped in with one group or another, and in the US “black” supercedes all other input, which is inaccurate and insulting to people that want to claim multiple heritages or be designated somewhere in between, which is more accurate than the one drop rule, which actually only took effect and effected legal status if you were one eighth or more of African descent in the US.
Also even West Africans, overall, have some mideast and even Neanderthal heritage in them because of the constant migration and DNA swapping over the past 20,000 years. Very few, if any, populations are completely “pure”, without input from surrounding populations.
I’ll say this, it’s weird when people only show part of their admixture results. It seems like they want to hide or conceal results they don’t particularly like.
@midori
You are a known Afrocentric troll from Guyana of multiracial background (you said to even have reddish hairy) who fancies New World people of color as “black” but you got upset when in Paris you dealt with proper Sub-Sarahan African people.
It should be added “likely Italian” on her father’s side.
She said in a dm to a fanpage back in 2015 that her dad has two white parents cause he’s adopted. Though her dad must know something about his birth parents or one of them since she said he’s African American & “a little Irish” which I assume she means is a quarter Irish or less not half.
Thank you. We already assumed her father was either adopted or had a stepfather.
Mestizo means of indigenous & Spaniard blood. You’re talking about mulattos.
So what’s goin’ on here?
Her dad is most likely adopted. Not sure though as Halsey never mentioned it. We’ll just have to wait and see if she ever talks about it.
James Frangipane and Theresa married in 1967 (both then aged 18) and had Chris (their first child?) in 1973 six years later. They had another child, Matt Frangipane, in 1984 but Matt is white and Chris is mixed race/black. Is Matt adopted or is Chris adopted or are they both adopted? Both Chris and Matt have the surname Frangipane and (from what I know) there’s no divorce record of James Frangipane and Theresa Thorley.
Well, waiting for an update on Halsey’s profile soon.
I’ve been a listener of Halsey for years so I’ve also followed her fanpages… Back in 2015 she actually said in a dm to one of her fanpages that her dad was adopted. It came up cause the fanpage asked why she her dad had 2 white parents. The screenshot was posted & she liked it at the time. I’ll try to find it again.
The text says maternal grandmother twice atm.
Question: if her father has African-American ancestry, why does he have an Italian surname? Weird.
I think Frangipane was his step-father’s name.
that would make sense.
@bablah where does it say that? Did Halsey mention it?
Also his “Hungarian” maternal grandfather appears to have a German and/or Ashkenazi Jewish surname, rather than Magyar.
She didn’t mention it, but it makes no sense for her father to have two white parents.
Anyway, this is her great-grandmother’s obituary:
https://thesweeneybrothers.com/obituary/helen-f-ciardi-thorley-bagley-age-91/
He has obviosly NOT two white parents
Btw is that her maternal great-grandmother? Ciardi is an Italian surname you know.
Good job you are a wizard in findind this stuff.
Theresa and James married in 1967, six years before Halsey’s father was born. Perhaps he was adopted, or this is the wrong couple.
I didn’t think her grandmother was white.
I thought he might be adopted too. Or maybe fostered?
Halsey said her dad is black and a little Irish then why does he have an Italian surname and his grandmother Helen Ciardi has an Italian surname too? Almost all Frangipane’s in Massachusetts are white and Italian.
I think Helen F. Ciardi is Halsey’s biological grandmother though. She shares a resemblance with Halsey and her dad.
I don’t know if her father was adopted, but he and his kids kids look a lot like Theresa.
Maybe Theresa had Christopher out of wedlock and he’s illegitimate?
There’s a Leo George Jr. Frangipane (born 1947) that lives at the same address as Chris. I think this might be his dad. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJZS-SS27
His parents were Leo George Sr. Frangipane (son of Joseph Frangipane and Rose Santore) and Concetta F. Meloni (daughter of Anthony Meloni and Mary Milici Meloni) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVF1-JKPZ
Leo Senior’s parents were Italian and white: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQX4-B66
Have you found a marriage for Thorley and Frangipane?
Also could this be the right Richard Jacobs? https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KGG9-YCS
He’s also known as Rae and Raffaela. Raffaela sounds Hungarian-ish or maybe Italian?
I dont think Cristopher ever lived in PA. He was born in MA, and has lived in NJ for quite some time.
There’s a James Frangipane who lived in Florham Park, NJ in 2000. Chris also lived in Florham Park, NJ in 2000. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KL27-PS7
I think this is the James that married Theresa Thorley.
James Paul Franglpane
Birth: 1949 Revere Massachusetts USA
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=3928&h=858494&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=WIx3509&_phstart=successSource
Maybe Leo Jr. is Chris’ uncle? That could give us a clue as to who James’ parents are?
My bet’s on that James’ mother is African American and his father Italian. Are the Thorley’s Irish?
I’m almost certain that’s them. Theresa and James would have both been 18 at the time when they married. Maybe Chris has an older sibling and his parents were forced to get married young then six years later Chris comes along? It’s not impossible to have another child six years after they married, after all they were only 24 when Chris was born.
There’s Irish on Halsey’s paternal side but very little.
Joseph R. Thorley (born 1927 son of Joseph Edward Thorley/Thorly and Susan from Rhode Island, USA)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J51N-VW5
Joseph E. Thorley and Susan on 1920 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XQRC-4QT
Joseph Edward Thorley on 1900 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9W3-8VY
Joseph Edward Thorley born in 1895 son of Joseph Thorley and Henrietta Letterick https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F8SQ-RVC
Joseph Thorley’s passport application says he was born in Manchester, England in 1878 and emigrated in 1882 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV5B-LM1C
Emigration of Henrietta Litterick (with her first husband William Litterick) born in 1861 in Manchester, England
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVSV-CPN9
Marriage of Joseph H. Thorley and Henrietta Bottomly Litterick in 1893 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FH4P-KTJ
There’s an ancestry tree that has Joseph Edward Thorley married to a Susan Margaret Kiley.
Susan Margaret Kiley daughter of Thomas Kiley and Nellie Birt https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F89L-GL6
Nellie Birt’s parents were from Scotland and Ireland
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9W9-S8D
Thomas Kiley’s parents came from Ireland and England https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9W9-S88
Chris has a much youger sibling, Matthew Frangipane.
Is Matthew Chris’s only sibling? If so, I think there’s probably something going on here. I don’t believe Halsey’s father is just one quarter black. Not that it’s even been established that James Frangipane had any black ancestry.
@follers His younger brother is white. Strange I didn’t expect that. So Chris is adopted?
I don’t know, but it would be strange for Halsey to have such a unique Italian surname as Frangipane but not refer to any Italian background on her father’s side.
About Frangipane:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frangipani_family
Also her maternal grandfather is an Alanis Morrisette-like one. Not an ethnic Hungarian.
Helen Ciardi’s father Ernest Agitor Ciardi.
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/G31C-K5M
Helen’s part Italian, English, Welsh and French-Canadian if you believe that tree.
Here are pictures of Halsey’s dad with his mother (Theresa): https://www.lipstickalley.com/attachments/image1520028619-480500-jpg.188678/
I think when Halsey said her dad was “black and a little Irish” she was omitting the fact that her dad’s part Italian too.
Well, thanks a lot.
I am still kinda surprised that there has not been a previous investigation about the odd Frangipane surname on her dad’s side.
In fact I had alwais thought it was her mother’s maiden name (since she claimed Italian ancestry).
Americans are so ignorant. If a mixed race man has a child with a white woman, they create kids that look like Halsey of Rashida Jones. As in mostly white women. Same with Eartha Kitt’s daughter. If you people would recognize mixed race people there would be no “uh duh, why does she look white”. Because she mostly is white!
I agree. People don’t really pay attention to genetics. It can skip generations and the color combos and textures with hair, eyes, skin etc can be a mixed bag if there’s mixed ancestry, but more times than not, if you have a mixed black and white person that gets with a White person, their kids will be majority white and most of the time take on euro features. Not always, but most of the time. Look at Drake’s kid for example or any other one the same as him. Not only white passing, but very white. Same as if a mixed race black and White person gets with a black person. Kids will be mostly black and a lot of the time takes on black features. NOT ALWAYS, but tends to lean that way. Genetics is a cool thing, and anything can happen, but people should not be surprised at all the outcomes.
Very true & eloquently said. Genetic can be like dice sometimes but 9/10 it’s not that hard to predict, except for when throwback genes & mutations happen.
I’m American but I agree with you. Americans need to let the ODR (which was a racist Jim Crow law based on white supremacy) go away. In Latin America, the UK, even Africa & many other countries, there is/has never been a ODR. In most countries mixed people can be mixed without automatically being put in the black box. I see more Rachel Dolezals in the future infiltrating blackness in America.
I disagree, in homogeneous countries black/white mixed people are considered black and most people don’t make the difference between a mixed person and a 100% african person. But people like Halsey will never be considered black.
Nothing to disagree with. It’s true. In many other countries mixed people are considered mixed race not automatically black. I’ve traveled a lot & met a lot of different nationalities of people. Particularly in the places I mentioned. In South Africa theyre usally called “colored”, in the Uk “mixed race” in Latin America “mulatto” (if they’re black/white). They’re are also different kinds of mixed people, not just black & white. Mestizos are white & indigenous in Latin America. Half asians also exist.
In most countries, mixed people are mixed. Americans are just backwards in everything. Metrics system, driving and understabding race which they ironically obsess over