Halsey
Halsey at the MTV Movie And TV Awards held at the Barker Hangar in Santa Monica, USA on June 16, 2018. Photo by Starfrenzy/bigstock.com
Birth Name: Ashley Nicolette Frangipane
Place of Birth: Edison, New Jersey, U.S.
Date of Birth: September 29, 1994
Ethnicity:
*father – African-American, small amount of Irish
*mother – one half Italian, one quarter Hungarian, German, Irish
Halsey is an American singer, songwriter, and activist. She is also known by her given name Ashley Frangipane.
Halsey is the daughter of Nicole and Chris Frangipane. She has a son with her partner, screenwriter Alev Aydin.
She is biracial. She has said:
my dad is black and a little Irish and my mom is Italian and Hungarian!
Her mother’s ancestry includes one half Italian, one quarter Hungarian, and German and Irish. A picture of Halsey with her maternal grandmother can be seen here. A picture of Halsey’s parents can be seen here.
She has also said that a DNA test showed her genetic ancestry to include “Italian, Turkish, Nigerian, Senegalese, and British/Irish. lots of big surprises there.”
Halsey’s maternal grandfather is Richard Jacobs (the son of Steve Jacobs/Jacob and Lorraine Alice Christoff/Cristoff). Steve was the son of Hungarian parents, Frank Joseph Jakab/Jacob, from Gersekarát, Vas, and Maria/Mary Takacs, from Olaszfa, Vas. Lorraine was born in Hartford, Connecticut, the daughter of Emil Gustave Christoff/Christoffel/Cristoff and Lucinda Hickey. Emil was the son of German parents, Fredrich/Frederick C. Christoffel and Emilia/Amelia O. Thieme.
Halsey’s maternal grandmother is Annette Canace (the daughter of Vito Canace and Josephine Fortunata Minervino). Annette is of Italian descent, with roots in Calabria and Campania. Vito was born in New Jersey, the son of Dominick/Domenico Canace, who was born in Avellino, Campania, and of Maria Canace. Josephine was the daughter of Charles Minervino and Antoinette Barras.
Halsey in 2015, photo by Prphotos
Sources: Death record of Halsey’s maternal great-grandmother, Lorraine Alice (Christoff/Cristoff) Jacobs – https://www.familysearch.org
Halsey’s maternal great-great-grandfather, Emil Gustave Christoff/Christoffel/Cristoff, on the 1930 U.S. Census – https://www.familysearch.org
i didn’t expect that
Yes and people say Micheal Jackson kids cannot be his because they are white. I think Micheal Jacksons kids are his too. She looks whiter than Micheal Jacksons kids.
Her dad looks white than michael jackson(before all the surgery)
Me neither. I was expecting part East Asian. But her nose & lip formation gave me an inkling there was something else there.
Some of we mixed people either with a white grandparent or native or mixed with both like I am come out looking different. I’m yellowish brown or light skin and my older brother is darker like my African American mom. Sometimes mix offspring do come out looking more of one race or not of have mixed traits. For example, I have more curly hair and my brother has wavy hair. If someone saw me they would think I’m mixed or can “see” native and white in my features. My darker brother gets different reactions. We used to joke if he was adopted because he looks nothing like our father but he looks like our mom, who is African American.
what traits are you looking for?
I think the media always stereotypes biracials as having one look being darker tan/brown with African traits but Biracials can be born looking like any race. Many people forget about Mariah Carey who is biracial, Vin Diesel, Rasheeda Jones, Jennifer Beals all the white looking biracials just pass for white. And like I said I still think Micheal Jacksons white looking children are his kids.
@ midori
they came out more “white-looking” because being half African-American they have additional European ancestry. Btw Halsey look more Caucasian by far than all of the examples you mentioned.
Mariah Carey is a quadroon or slightly more (25-35% ssa). She’s not half black. Rasheeda Jones “black” parent turned out being 66% SSA and like 34% other so she’s almost a quadroon.
Halsey is not the average looking “mulatto”. There are many mulattos that can look white passing but the average mulatto does not take on 95% of the european genes and then has somewhat subtle hints (her lips, nose and hair texture MAY look off depending on who looks on her) but for all intent she will be seen as white and her african american parent likely had some distant european blood in his tree.
I don’t think it’s as common for say someone straight from West Africa and someone from West Europe (as that’s probably what most people in USA view mulattos) to come out looking like Hasley as opposed to a New World “black” (who has a likely much higher percentage or chance of having european blood).
Not all AfrAMs have European blood but a good chunk most likely do. Halsey is probably 60% European dna and 40% SSA or maybe 55/45 and likely the ancient European genes from the slave days kicked in with her mothers genes and made her.
She’s really pretty but i don’t really see the african american side in her. I know her dad looks very dark and african so thats quite weird.
it’s entirely normal for biracial offspring to be born looking more like one parent than the other. some children born to mixed parents end up looking dark rather than a mix of two parents. even though an ‘equal’ mix is common with mixed parents (ie lightskin), offspring being born with the appearance of one race is common.
completely correct, happens all the time
however her father is African-American, half European-half West African mixes don’t look like that and even Halsey is clearly not the average.
Just being curious, how would you know what the average looks like? There millions upon millions of mixed bloods all over the place, many of whom you wouldn’t. Even know were mixed. Now you’ve already shown many times that you know very little about this subject. What person said above was correct, As I stated before about my two cousins, you would even know they were sister
I don’t think it’s just my impression, she’s so light-skinned and European-influenced that I don’t see her as an “average” African-American /European mixed person.
@Andrew
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(I don’t think it’s just my impression, she’s so light-skinned and European-influenced )
I never said it was just your impression, lot of people probably think like you. Lots of people like yourself, have very little exposure to this subject. The very statement you made(she’s so light-skinned and European-influenced ), say a lot. If you did happen upon a white looking mulatto, how would you know(unless they told you)? they look white, so I’m pretty sure your eyes and mind would perceive that person as white. If you were walking down the street of Europe, you wouldn’t perceive These young women right here as anything other than white:
alexisbelon
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uj5nb9qKau0/maxresdefault.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj5nb9qKau0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90gt3y32q_A
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hj9hTvtAQRg/hqdefault.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj9hTvtAQRg
or this guy here
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/506938298057900032/tYgG7CBW.jpeg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDIlmpgU-6A
I mean you guys say white people can have all kind of traits, so how are you going to know who’s full or not
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( I don’t see her as an “average” African-American /European mixed person.)
Well first lets get straight. The word (common) was used, not average. You’re never going to know the average, because they come in so many different ways, from looking (full black, halfway, to taking this trait or that trait, to all the way white looking).One child looking like this, to another one looking like that. You say you don’t see her as a average mixed person, but how many mulattoes have you actually met. You’ve already shown, that you have a very narrow scope, about what a mulatto is supposed to look like. I know you see mulatts on the net, but for everyone you see, there could dozens you don’t see(not everyone puts themselves on the web). I couldn’t even tell you what the avg one looks like, I seen them looking so many different ways
Halsey and the other 2 persons are not genetically “mulattoes” because you know African-Americans have European genes, so we don’t know exactly what is their genetic profile, that remains mainly European though. I know it sometimes happens African-Americans/Europeans came out white-looking, but my opinion remains that Halsey and your other 2 examples don’t represent the average.
@Andrew
First again I never said they rep the avg, I said they were common, meaning not usual. I told you about my cousin that has 27 kids. 9 of his kids are by white women, and those kids are completely white looking(much whiter looking than Halsey). Also if you know AA’s are water down, then why would you be shocked to see those that looks like her? You not going to see the avg mulatto. They come in different colors, hair type, facial traits, and all that can be in the same household .
that’s more or less incorrect. to say a mix doesn’t look a certain way would be erasure of any mixed children with light pigmented skin, like halsey. like i said, some mixes inherit more african features and don’t look like their european parent at all, and vice versa with halsey. not every mixed child has light brown skin and a balance of features between both parents.
@fuzzybear44 you don’t need to get offended about this.. i myself have met a ton of mulattos, i’m close friends with one and none of them have looked as light as halsey. African american genes are very dominant compared to light european ones so it would only makes sense for a mixed person to have more traits from the dominant gene. It’s just common sense and to get offended by it is ridiculous. Yes halsey is mixed and looks like a white girl which is weird because what do you get when you mix the colors black and white? it will definetly look more dark than white. It has nothing to do with being narrow minded.
@athelya
I don’t know how you got the idea I was offended. I said nothing that had an aggressive tone to it. I myself also know tons of mulattoes, and I am personally related to some that are whiter than halsey. This statement right here,
(African american genes are very dominant compared to light european )
shows me you know very little about what you’re talking about. If AA genes were so dominant, both Qunicy Jones daughters would be black( even with Qunicy being water down).Also the only thing ridiculous here is for you to try and compare the human body with that silly analogy of mixing colors in a pail. It’s the melanin in our skin that gives us our pigment. The body doesn’t work the same as pouring different colors in a bucket , and seeing what you come up with
@fuzzybear44 if both parents carry the light european gene then they will eventually have a light child like halsey but if one parent has only dark genes it will outweigh the other one, it’s most likely both parents have that gene. Theres no need to speculate how much i know or not, thats not what this is about. i know exactly what i’m talking about. I was comparing melanin which is easily compared to colors.
@athelya
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( Theres no need to speculate how much i know or not, thats not what this is about. )
That’s exactly what this is about. You’re here trying to tell a mixed-blood, what mixed-bloods can or can’t look like.
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(if one parent has only dark genes it will outweigh the other one, it’s most likely both parents have that gene.)
Here are few true mulattoes, half full African/white:
Bruce Fummey:
http://www.afterdinnerspeakers4u.co.uk/Speakers/General%20Speakers/Bruce%20Fummey/
jaye Davidson
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/21/70/c2/2170c25e4d5ccc34e6e14244c72cc411.jpg
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/mp/DyJNfWCkgVZl.jpg
Moussa Clarke
http://cdn.discogs.com/3l-vpyhsbpfhkRWrq6VLfQ3OA7E=/fit-in/300×300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb()/discogs-images/A-166473-1196255667.jpeg.jpg
http://www.glamourpunk.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/griffen-575×575.jpg
http://www.residentadvisor.net/dj/moussaclarke/biography
The only thing I agree with is that I don’t have to speculate how much you know or not. You’ve already proven you don’t know very much about this subject
Why did you ignore my comment, I actually backed you…
@cwm
I didn’t. Know you were speaking to me. Since it was at the top,
Not weird at all
It was to you. Maybe next time I will say @ whoever but I thought I should have added my two cents since we McDonald’s are a mixed family. Native, African and European and my brother and I have different traits tho we share same parents. I look more like our Dad when he favors our mom more complexion wise and facial wise.
@cwm85
Well that work, and like I said , I was not ignoring you. I had read the comment, and I agreed with it. However since it was up there, I thought you were just adding a separate comment
know much about what? you’re talking as if everyone should know how an offspring should look like based on the mixing of two completely different gene pools. Judging my intellect based on this subject alone comes of as petty and it takes my interest of from what else you have to say.
@athelya
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(know much about what? you’re talking as if everyone should know how an offspring should look like based on the mixing of two completely different gene pools. )
Wait a minute, lets see all the things you said.
1. it was you who stated you , that you have met a ton of mulattos
2. it was you who stated, African american genes are very dominant compared to light european ones so it would only makes sense for a mixed person to have more traits from the dominant gene.
3. it was you who stated, if one parent has only dark genes it will outweigh the other one
4. It was you who stated, You know exactly what You’re talking about.
These are all the statements you made as if you were a expert on the subject. I simply proved, that you don’t know as much as you think.
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(Judging my intellect based on this subject alone comes off as petty)
PETTY? I might be suggesting that your pride might not allow you to admit , that you’re wrong about a subject. However I never once called you stupid, or used any other word like that.
btw those people you linked me look completely mulatto and not white passing like halsey.. having a washed out color palate indicates european roots.
@athelya
Well If you look again, you’ll see that I wrote (TRUE MULATTOES) over those pics. I was not comparing them to Halsey. They were provided simply to show , that your statement here:
( if one parent has only dark genes it will outweigh the other one) was a FALSE statement
http://interportfolio.ru/images/stories/clarke.jpeg
Mousse Clarke here clearly proves your statement to be false. Also no one thought Jaye Davidson was half black when he was young, and they wouldn’t think it looking at him now:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-xQXwidrfbCc/UgvfmzcmJLI/AAAAAAAAMg8/TyHtTdLPvTw/s1600/jaye%252Bdavidson-Oggi-Today-star-Then%252B%2526%252BNow-Now-Hot-Height-Altezza-feet-naked-meteore-drug-Old-Dead-Morto-last%252Bappearance-Last%252Bphotos-where-are-they-now-2012-2013-2014-attori%252Bbambini-Kids-celebrities-celebrity.jpg
Which shows Your being deceitful, but that doesn’t surprise me. If they had walk pass you on the street,you wouldn’t have known they mulattoes
Halsey as (Andrew) pointed out, is most likely not a true mulatta. She is from African American stock, and as everyone knows we have been tainted by you Europeans. Halsey is not usual, we have always had them, that ‘s why passing was so easy and popular in the past
correction – capitalize the ‘she’ in one of the sentences.