Halsey
Halsey at the MTV Movie And TV Awards held at the Barker Hangar in Santa Monica, USA on June 16, 2018. Photo by Starfrenzy/bigstock.com
Birth Name: Ashley Nicolette Frangipane
Place of Birth: Edison, New Jersey, U.S.
Date of Birth: September 29, 1994
Ethnicity:
*father – African-American, small amount of Irish
*mother – Italian, Hungarian
Halsey is an American singer, songwriter, and activist. She is also known by her given name Ashley Frangipane.
Halsey is the daughter of Nicole and Chris Frangipane.
She is biracial. She has said:
my dad is black and a little Irish and my mom is Italian and Hungarian!
A picture of Halsey with her maternal grandmother can be seen here.
Halsey’s maternal grandfather is named Richard Jacobs.
Halsey’s maternal grandmother is Annette Canace (the daughter of Vito Canace and Josephine Fortunata Minervino). Vito was born in New Jersey, the son of Dominick/Domenico Canace and Maria Canace. Josephine was the daughter of Charles Minervino and Antoinette Barras.
Halsey in 2015, photo by Prphotos
So what’s goin’ on here?
Her dad is most likely adopted. Not sure though as Halsey never mentioned it. We’ll just have to wait and see if she ever talks about it.
James Frangipane and Theresa married in 1967 (both then aged 18) and had Chris (their first child?) in 1973 six years later. They had another child, Matt Frangipane, in 1984 but Matt is white and Chris is mixed race/black. Is Matt adopted or is Chris adopted or are they both adopted? Both Chris and Matt have the surname Frangipane and (from what I know) there’s no divorce record of James Frangipane and Theresa Thorley.
Well, waiting for an update on Halsey’s profile soon.
The text says maternal grandmother twice atm.
Question: if her father has African-American ancestry, why does he have an Italian surname? Weird.
I think Frangipane was his step-father’s name.
that would make sense.
@bablah where does it say that? Did Halsey mention it?
Also his “Hungarian” maternal grandfather appears to have a German and/or Ashkenazi Jewish surname, rather than Magyar.
She didn’t mention it, but it makes no sense for her father to have two white parents.
Anyway, this is her great-grandmother’s obituary:
https://thesweeneybrothers.com/obituary/helen-f-ciardi-thorley-bagley-age-91/
He has obviosly NOT two white parents
Btw is that her maternal great-grandmother? Ciardi is an Italian surname you know.
Good job you are a wizard in findind this stuff.
Theresa and James married in 1967, six years before Halsey’s father was born. Perhaps he was adopted, or this is the wrong couple.
I didn’t think her grandmother was white.
I thought he might be adopted too. Or maybe fostered?
Halsey said her dad is black and a little Irish then why does he have an Italian surname and his grandmother Helen Ciardi has an Italian surname too? Almost all Frangipane’s in Massachusetts are white and Italian.
I think Helen F. Ciardi is Halsey’s biological grandmother though. She shares a resemblance with Halsey and her dad.
I don’t know if her father was adopted, but he and his kids kids look a lot like Theresa.
Maybe Theresa had Christopher out of wedlock and he’s illegitimate?
There’s a Leo George Jr. Frangipane (born 1947) that lives at the same address as Chris. I think this might be his dad. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJZS-SS27
His parents were Leo George Sr. Frangipane (son of Joseph Frangipane and Rose Santore) and Concetta F. Meloni (daughter of Anthony Meloni and Mary Milici Meloni) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVF1-JKPZ
Leo Senior’s parents were Italian and white: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQX4-B66
Have you found a marriage for Thorley and Frangipane?
Also could this be the right Richard Jacobs? https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KGG9-YCS
He’s also known as Rae and Raffaela. Raffaela sounds Hungarian-ish or maybe Italian?
I dont think Cristopher ever lived in PA. He was born in MA, and has lived in NJ for quite some time.
There’s a James Frangipane who lived in Florham Park, NJ in 2000. Chris also lived in Florham Park, NJ in 2000. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KL27-PS7
I think this is the James that married Theresa Thorley.
James Paul Franglpane
Birth: 1949 Revere Massachusetts USA
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=3928&h=858494&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=WIx3509&_phstart=successSource
Maybe Leo Jr. is Chris’ uncle? That could give us a clue as to who James’ parents are?
My bet’s on that James’ mother is African American and his father Italian. Are the Thorley’s Irish?
I’m almost certain that’s them. Theresa and James would have both been 18 at the time when they married. Maybe Chris has an older sibling and his parents were forced to get married young then six years later Chris comes along? It’s not impossible to have another child six years after they married, after all they were only 24 when Chris was born.
There’s Irish on Halsey’s paternal side but very little.
Joseph R. Thorley (born 1927 son of Joseph Edward Thorley/Thorly and Susan from Rhode Island, USA)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J51N-VW5
Joseph E. Thorley and Susan on 1920 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XQRC-4QT
Joseph Edward Thorley on 1900 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9W3-8VY
Joseph Edward Thorley born in 1895 son of Joseph Thorley and Henrietta Letterick https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F8SQ-RVC
Joseph Thorley’s passport application says he was born in Manchester, England in 1878 and emigrated in 1882 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV5B-LM1C
Emigration of Henrietta Litterick (with her first husband William Litterick) born in 1861 in Manchester, England
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVSV-CPN9
Marriage of Joseph H. Thorley and Henrietta Bottomly Litterick in 1893 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FH4P-KTJ
There’s an ancestry tree that has Joseph Edward Thorley married to a Susan Margaret Kiley.
Susan Margaret Kiley daughter of Thomas Kiley and Nellie Birt https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F89L-GL6
Nellie Birt’s parents were from Scotland and Ireland
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9W9-S8D
Thomas Kiley’s parents came from Ireland and England https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9W9-S88
Chris has a much youger sibling, Matthew Frangipane.
Is Matthew Chris’s only sibling? If so, I think there’s probably something going on here. I don’t believe Halsey’s father is just one quarter black. Not that it’s even been established that James Frangipane had any black ancestry.
@follers His younger brother is white. Strange I didn’t expect that. So Chris is adopted?
I don’t know, but it would be strange for Halsey to have such a unique Italian surname as Frangipane but not refer to any Italian background on her father’s side.
About Frangipane:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frangipani_family
Also her maternal grandfather is an Alanis Morrisette-like one. Not an ethnic Hungarian.
Helen Ciardi’s father Ernest Agitor Ciardi.
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/G31C-K5M
Helen’s part Italian, English, Welsh and French-Canadian if you believe that tree.
Here are pictures of Halsey’s dad with his mother (Theresa): https://www.lipstickalley.com/attachments/image1520028619-480500-jpg.188678/
I think when Halsey said her dad was “black and a little Irish” she was omitting the fact that her dad’s part Italian too.
Well, thanks a lot.
I am still kinda surprised that there has not been a previous investigation about the odd Frangipane surname on her dad’s side.
In fact I had alwais thought it was her mother’s maiden name (since she claimed Italian ancestry).
Americans are so ignorant. If a mixed race man has a child with a white woman, they create kids that look like Halsey of Rashida Jones. As in mostly white women. Same with Eartha Kitt’s daughter. If you people would recognize mixed race people there would be no “uh duh, why does she look white”. Because she mostly is white!
I agree. People don’t really pay attention to genetics. It can skip generations and the color combos and textures with hair, eyes, skin etc can be a mixed bag if there’s mixed ancestry, but more times than not, if you have a mixed black and white person that gets with a White person, their kids will be majority white and most of the time take on euro features. Not always, but most of the time. Look at Drake’s kid for example or any other one the same as him. Not only white passing, but very white. Same as if a mixed race black and White person gets with a black person. Kids will be mostly black and a lot of the time takes on black features. NOT ALWAYS, but tends to lean that way. Genetics is a cool thing, and anything can happen, but people should not be surprised at all the outcomes.