Johnny Depp

by ethnic on March 26, 2014

Birth Name: John Christopher Depp II

Place of Birth: Owensboro, Daviess, Kentucky, United States

Date of Birth: June 9, 1963

Ethnicity: English, along with small amounts of Irish, Scots-Irish/Northern Irish, Scottish, Welsh, French, French-Canadian, Dutch, Flemish Belgian, and German, as well as 3/2048 African

Johnny Depp is an American actor, musician, and producer. He is the star of the films Edward Scissorhands, the Pirates of the Caribbean series, Public Enemies, and The Lone Ranger, among many others. Johnny was selected People Magazine’s “Sexiest Man Alive” in 2003, and again in 2009.

Johnny is the son of Betty Sue (Wells) and John Christopher Depp. He has two children, including actress and model Lily-Rose Depp, with his former partner, French singer, model, and actress Vanessa Paradis.

Much or most of Johnny’s ancestry traces back to England. He also has small amounts (to varying degrees) of Irish, Scots-Irish/Northern Irish, Scottish, Welsh, French, French-Canadian, Dutch, Flemish Belgian, and German, ancestry, as well as 3/2048 African ancestry (through Elizabeth Key Grinstead, who is his ancestor twice over). Johnny’s patrilineal line is generally traced back to Pierre Deppe, who was born, c. 1706, in France, and to Pierre’s wife, Angelica/Angeline LeVillian/le Villian.

Both of Johnny’s parents, as well as all of Johnny’s grandparents, great-grandparents, and great-great-grandparents, were born in Kentucky. Johnny has stated, on several occasions, that he has or likely has Native American ancestry (of varying tribes, most often Cherokee). For example:

I guess I have some Native American somewhere down the line… My great grandmother was quite a bit of Native American, she grew up Cherokee or maybe Creek Indian. Makes sense in terms of coming from Kentucky, which is rife with Cherokee and Creek.

It does not appear that this Native American ancestry has been documented. All of Johnny’s grandparents and great-grandparents are listed as “White” on United States Censuses. No verified Native American ancestry has been produced for Johnny Depp.

Johnny’s paternal grandfather was Oren Laramore/Larimore/Larry Depp (the son of Oren Robert/Richard Depp and Effie America Palmore). Johnny’s great-grandfather Oren was the son of John Burks/Burkes Depp and Mariba Elizabeth Reneau. Effie was the daughter of Andrew Houston Palmore and Mary Elizabeth “Mollie” McCreary.

Johnny’s paternal grandmother was Violet Mattie Grinstead (the daughter of Roy F. Grinstead and Mary Edna Bailey). Roy was the son of Christopher Tompkins Grinstead and Martha S. “Mattie” Sanders. Johnny’s great-grandmother Mary Edna was the daughter of Joseph Taylor Bailey and Martha Ann Mansfield.

Johnny’s maternal grandfather was Walter Everett/Everette Wells (the son of Richard Mac/Mack Wells and Anna/Annie Cooper). Richard was the son of Commodore Charlie/William Perry Wells and Rebecca Ann “Beckie” Litteral. Johnny’s great-grandmother Anna was the daughter of William “Bill” M. Cooper and Sarah “Sallie” Jane Craft.

Johnny’s maternal grandmother was Bessie Irene Whitaker (the daughter of Branch Whitaker and May/Mae Slone). Branch was the son of William C. Whitaker and Sarilda/Serilda/Sirilda Amanda Fletcher. May was the daughter of Wiley Slone and Amanda Bradley.

Johnny is descended from a woman, Martha, who born in 1612, and who was of African descent. Martha had a daughter, Elizabeth Key (also an ancestor of Johnny). Elizabeth’s father, William Grinstead, was caucasian, of English descent. Elizabeth was the first woman of African ancestry to successfully take legal action to free herself from slavery. This happened in 1656. Johnny is descended from Martha twice (on one family tree, she is both one of his eight times great-grandmothers, and one of his nine times great-grandmothers). That would mean that Johnny is of 3/2048 African ancestry.

Some family trees state that Johnny’s nine times great-grandmother was a woman named Nicketti Opechancanough, who is said to have been of Powhatan Native American ancestry. If true, that would make Johnny of 1/2048 Powhatan Native American descent. However, stories about her are believed to be a myth. Scholarly research and records dispute the existence of Nicketti Opechancanough.

Sources: Genealogies of Johnny Depp – http://www.geni.com
http://www.genealogy.com
https://famouskin.com
https://www.wikitree.com

Genealogies of Johnny Depp (focusing on his father’s side) – http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com

Genealogy of Johnny’s paternal grandparents, Oren Laramore/Larimore/Larry Depp and Violet Mattie Grinstead – http://www.findagrave.com

Johnny’s paternal grandfather, Oren Laramore/Larimore/Larry Depp (“Laramore Depp”), on the 1910 U.S. Census – https://familysearch.org

Johnny’s paternal grandmother, Violet Mattie Grinstead (“Violet M. Grinstead”), on the 1930 U.S. Census – https://familysearch.org

Johnny’s paternal great-great-grandparents, Christopher Tompkins Grinstead and Martha S. “Mattie” Sanders, on the 1880 U.S. Census – https://familysearch.org

Genealogy and obituary of Johnny’s mother – https://www.findagrave.com

Johnny’s maternal grandfather, Walter Everett/Everette Wells (“Everette Wells”), on the 1920 U.S. Census – https://familysearch.org

Johnny’s maternal great-grandmother, Anna/Annie (Cooper) Wells, on the 1900 U.S. Census – https://familysearch.org

Genealogy of Johnny’s maternal great-great-grandfather, Richard Mac/Mack Wells (focusing on his own mother’s side) – http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com

Johnny’s maternal great-great-grandparents, William “Bill” M. Cooper and Sarah “Sallie” Jane Craft, on the 1910 U.S. Census – https://familysearch.org

Genealogy of Johnny’s maternal grandmother, Bessie Irene Whitaker (focusing on her mother’s side) – http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com

Johnny’s maternal grandmother, Bessie Irene Whitaker (“Bessie Whitaker”), on the 1910 U.S. Census – https://familysearch.org

Article about Johnny’s ancestor, Elizabeth (Key) Grinstead – http://www.womenhistoryblog.com

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andrew June 29, 2018 at 5:02 pm

he’s also a member of rock band Hollywood Vampires whose other members include Alice Cooper and Joe Perry

ArnyDiaz October 7, 2017 at 1:57 am

Whenever a white person has darker features: ”OMG he has to have jewish or spanish or african”

When a black person has obvious lighter features: ”Just black”

It’s obvious that this website is full of dumbasses, who are obsesses with looks and features, probably because they are ugly themselves..

ashash December 21, 2017 at 11:50 am

I know people can’t believe Johnny doesn’t have Native American ancestry because they think he looks Native American, but he and Skeet Ulrich resemble each other. Skeet is probably Johnny’s closest look alike, and he’s also a WASP.

follers December 21, 2017 at 12:31 pm

Some people said that Emory Cohen looks like Depp, but I guess they meant a light-complexioned version.

Also Thomas McDonell, but I don’t think they look that much alike.

ashash December 21, 2017 at 12:50 pm

Emory and Thomas are both handsome, but Thomas doesn’t look that much like Depp. I think people just said that because of his look – long (for a guy) dark hair, dark eyes, and I guess Native American-looking or rather what people think Natives look like.

I would say Skeet is the celebrity that resembles him most.

andrew December 22, 2017 at 12:56 pm

Johnny looks like Tommy Flanagan, who is Scottish (and part Irish, I think)

andrew October 5, 2017 at 3:56 pm

genealogy of Johnny’s maternal great-grandfather, Richard Mack Wells (focusing on his mother’s side): http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=ajobebrown&id=I44141

andrew October 5, 2017 at 3:50 pm

correction

https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Depp-Family-Tree-6

This a complete genealogy of him, not just of his father’s side

andrew September 12, 2017 at 6:34 pm

Johnny’s paternal 6th great-grandparents, John Reno and Mary Susannah Thorn, were also Taylor Swift’s paternal 7th great-grandparents

andrew August 28, 2017 at 12:28 pm

he has also distant Acadian/French Canadian ancestry trough Mary Molly Savoie who is an ancestor of Joseph Taylor Bailey

Ardor May 21, 2017 at 11:04 pm

There’s no way someone with their ancestry being 95% northwest European would look like Depp.

There is a prominent and recent ethnic group (or race) in his blood that’s missing.

Hill May 23, 2017 at 10:05 am

You’re stating random made up facts. You’re delusional.

ses101 May 23, 2018 at 9:40 am

Lots of people from Ireland (for example) have black hair and a natural tan, but you’d have to go back hundred if not thousands of years to the people who brought those genes into the country, so how far back do you go to say somebody isn’t, ethnically, North West European?

follers March 19, 2017 at 6:43 pm

It appears some people found Johnny Depp’s Native American ancestor. Evidently his great-great-great-grandfather Harmon Solomon Cooper (father of William Cooper) was the son of a Native American woman, Nancy Black Fox. That would make Johnny of 1/64th Cherokee ancestry, through his maternal grandfather’s (and his grandfather’s mother’s) line. It would likely be the great-grandmother he refers to in the quote on the page (the one who was “quite a bit of Native American”).

I’m trying to verify if this is true or a recent addition to the internet cannon.

There seems to be no question that a William Cooper, born October 1848, was Depp’s great-great-grandfather. The questions are:
1. Whether it’s the same William Cooper whose father was Harmon Solomon Cooper (that Harmon’s son William’s middle initial was “H.”).

2. Whether Harmon’s mother has been verified as being a Cherokee Native American.

http://genealogy.kathihill.com/Person/family_group/383120

https://www.geni.com/people/Harmon-Cooper-Jr/6000000000442969134?through=6000000021334951045

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=94346820

follers March 20, 2017 at 4:00 pm

Harmon Solomon Cooper, Jr.’s son, George Washington Cooper, is listed as having been born on May 27, 1848. Harmon’s son William Cooper was evidently his twin brother. If William was Harmon’s twin brother (or even if he wasn’t), then he couldn’t have been Depp’s great-great-grandfather, who was born in October 1848.

Depp’s great-great-grandfather is also listed as having the middle initial “M”, while Harmon’s son William had the middle initial “H”.

So I think they have made an error here in identifying Harmon Solomon Cooper, Jr. as Depp’s great-great-great-grandfather. But I could be wrong.

fuzzybear44 May 13, 2017 at 1:03 am

@follers

Like I said before, the Cherokee nation adopted a lot of people into their tribe in the late 1800’s. Those people lived and died Cherokee , but were not actually native. In the 1900’s, there were 37,000 Cherokee, of that number only 2000 were pure native, while 7000 were half. The rest were black and white people adopted into the tribe

Which is why this is what the Cherokee leadership looks like now:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bmL69xZDUfM/maxresdefault.jpg

andrew October 5, 2017 at 4:19 pm

@ follers

any thoughts about Patrick Dempsey and Chris Cooper’s Native American ancestry?

andrew August 28, 2017 at 10:08 am
follers August 28, 2017 at 10:57 am
andrew August 28, 2017 at 12:12 pm

it appears that she existed

bablah August 28, 2017 at 1:58 pm

”I certainly think that you should not remove Nicketti’s profile but simply clarify that it is based on a traditional account. ”

So it’s just speculation based on passed down stories. Not really deffinitive.

andrew November 14, 2016 at 1:57 pm

Genealogy of Johnny’s maternal great-great-grandmother, Amanda Bradley (focusing on her own father’s side) – http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com

broken link

ashash November 13, 2016 at 4:33 pm

This is one celebrity I have been dying to see on “Finding Your Roots” or “Who Do You Think You Are?” I know about his distant African ancestry, and I know genealogists have never found any Native American ancestors for him, but he really believes that his great-grandmother was Cherokee or Creek. I’d like for him to take a DNA test and have his genealogy shown on T.V. It could even be his daughter.

fuzzybear44 May 13, 2017 at 1:08 am

I don’t think he will take one

andrew October 26, 2016 at 4:08 pm
andrew May 11, 2017 at 3:19 pm

This is mother’s obituary, with some genealogy. It should be added.

anen87 July 22, 2016 at 6:54 am

It’s funny the english made up this term “swarthy” as a derogatory to describe some south euros. Yet they themselves can be swarthy too. I came across a sad story of a british woman who felt unloved because of her dark features and how her father would say how she won’t amount to anything because she wasn’t “white” like the rest of her family. She took a DNA test and it came back 99% european & 1% south asian

Ardor May 18, 2017 at 7:09 pm

Quite to the contrary, English people boast about the fact that some of them can be swarthy. They get pissed when you call them pale and ghostly in appearance (because of sparse sunshine there). They actually envy people with bronze skin, and they’d also hope that darker folks would have sole English ancestry.

andrew July 9, 2016 at 5:33 pm

Pierre Deppe/Dieppe was likely a French Huguenot from Dieppe, Normandy, France.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieppe

Add this:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=145485153

andrew May 26, 2016 at 6:12 pm
Fatmonkey May 14, 2016 at 6:33 pm

I happen to have an information that there were some five Sizemore siblings, two brothers and three sisters, born in the beginning of 19th century to Edward B. Sizemore and Louanna Bolling. Louanna Bolling was a descendant of John Rolfe and Pocahontas. Most of the Sizemore siblings lived and died in Kentucky. I saw that Johnny has some Sizemores in his family tree, but no Bollings?

follers May 14, 2016 at 8:12 pm
ashash November 13, 2016 at 4:34 pm

So Johnny is a relative of Tom Sizemore?

follers November 13, 2016 at 5:01 pm
anen87 February 29, 2016 at 4:12 am

So would u guys says he looks English as that is what most of his ancestry traces back to

ectag May 9, 2016 at 3:12 pm

He doesn’t look English at all. But what most people on this site don’t seem to ‘get’ however is that there are full-bloooded British people who look Mediterranean.

There have always been folk legends that offer romantic explanations such as the legacy of Roman occupation or the genetic contributions of swarthy Spanish sailors who swam ashore in the aftermath of the defeat of the Spanish Armada, but modern genealogy and genetic research has shown these folk legends to be worthless; some Brits just happen to look more Mediterranean than Angloid, just as some Meds just happen to look Angloid.

slowdive January 31, 2016 at 2:52 pm

85% Euro, 10% Native, 5% Negro.

phaedra April 11, 2016 at 3:09 am

More like 1% negro.

ashash November 13, 2016 at 4:31 pm

Who uses “negro” to describe black people these days? Have some respect.

bablah January 10, 2016 at 10:58 am

Okay, this geni.com profile claims Mary Alice Slone (nee Sizemore) was Native. Her uncle’s profile refers to him as a mulatto (sometimes natives were listed as mulattos, but most times mulatto was a mulatto).
http://www.geni.com/people/Mary-Slone/6000000001013746848
She was 4 times great grandmother of Bessie Irene Whitaker.

follers January 10, 2016 at 11:06 am

I think Mary Alice may have been rumored to be Native American, but none of the ancestors listed for her on geni.com are confirmed to be Native. Mary Alice is listed as “White” on the 1850 U.S. Census.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M65S-H4Z

As for Nicketti Opechancanough, this is addressed in the text. She appears to be some sort of legend.

bablah January 10, 2016 at 12:21 pm

I did some googling about this whitetop whatever band of cherokees and it is not a recognised tribe regardless of whether she was completely descended from them or partially.
some natives are adamnant that there never were any cherokee tribe in KY.

bablah January 10, 2016 at 10:43 am

lol, is this the native american he’s been trying to claim?
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=dowfam3&id=I265483&style=TABLE
lol, early 17th century…

embella October 20, 2015 at 7:44 pm

I am from Owensboro and pretty much everyone has some sorta Native American ancestry.

ashash November 11, 2015 at 7:45 pm

http://newamericamedia.org/2013/06/johnny-depp-the-indian-is-he-or-isnt-he.php

“Disney relies upon the ignorance of the public to allow that ambiguity to exist,” says Hanay Geiogamah, Professor of Theater at UCLA’s School of Theater, Film and Television. Geiogamah (Kiowa/Delaware) was a consultant for Disney’s Pocahontas and served as producer and co-producer for TBS’ The Native Americans: Behind the Legends, Beyond the Myths aired in the 1990s.

“If Depp had any legitimate blood of any tribe, Disney would definitely have all the substantial proof of that already. It’s not that hard to establish tribal connections,” Geiogamah says.

Richard Allen, Policy Analyst for the Cherokee Nation in Tahlequah, Oklahoma, agrees. He says that many celebrities have claimed Cherokee heritage—often based upon family stories they’ve heard—but like Depp they never try to verify it. “They all tell me they have high cheekbones,” Allen says.

Geiogomah believes that because so few roles in Hollywood go to Native American actors, Disney’s big-budget movie is a “missed opportunity.” Depp could have played the Lone Ranger and instead promoted a younger Indian actor to play Tonto, he points out. After all, Canadian Mohawk actor Jay Silverheels portrayed the character in the 1950s TV series.

xoxo October 18, 2015 at 5:08 am

The Native American and distant black ancestry is what makes him handsome and exotic.

ashash November 11, 2015 at 6:21 pm

He doesn’t have any Native American ancestry and I doubt 3/2048 contributes to his phenotype.

memphis April 8, 2017 at 3:58 pm

Genetics are funny. There is a story of a South Afrikaner named Sandra Lainge who was born from 2 “white” Afrikaner parents but her appearance is that of a light skinned African person. Both parents apparently had high degree of indigenous African genes but didn’t show in their phenotype. Johnny Depps 6x grandmother is still apart of him no matter how slight.

ashash July 8, 2017 at 12:57 pm

I am sure those Afrikaners had more than 1% African ancestry, while Depp does not even have 1%. I stand by my statement that I doubt it contributes to his phenotype. “Throwback genes” is a disproven concept.

Jordan January 2, 2016 at 8:32 am

It’s actually impossible that 3/2048 African affects phenotype.

andrew September 23, 2015 at 8:26 am

Johnny’s patrilineal line traces back to Pierre Deppe (the son of jean Deppe and Penetier/Penelope) born c. 1706 in France, and Angelica LeVillian.

http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/d/e/p/Dixie-H-Depp/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0120.html

Malefactor September 21, 2015 at 5:57 pm

He looks slightly Native influenced.

Sarsari87 September 23, 2015 at 5:21 am

he has cherokee ancestry as well from his mother side!

memphis October 5, 2015 at 9:33 am

Johnny could have a native ancestor because in the South to be “Indian” meant potentially losing your property therefore many in listed themselves as “white” during censuses. Kentucky is also were many so called “Melungeons” lived since colonial times.

neiltennant August 7, 2015 at 7:37 am

hmm strange

when he was in his 20s and 30s he looked very british and in white in general

but as older he got more exotic he looks

he definitely looks too exotic. he is even more exotic than most spaNISH

cwm85 August 7, 2015 at 8:39 am

He’s white. Unless you count hos African-American ancestry for more than 400 years ago…

andrew August 7, 2015 at 7:03 pm

@neil.

Johnny never looked British or “white” in his life and he will never be. He’s not your average European guy. His look is the key of his success. He has claimed at least 100 times to have Native roots. Being/looking white is not his goal.

ashash November 11, 2015 at 6:26 pm

“He has claimed at least 100 times to have Native roots.”

So has Kim Basinger and Elizabeth Warren (a proven liar). There’s no proof of Native American ancestry for Johnny Depp, and it seems he doesn’t know either since he keeps changing the story. First, it was Cherokee, then Cree. First, it was on his mother’s side and then on his father’s side and then on both. He claimed one of his great-grandmothers was very Native American, although none of them are.

It may not be his goal to look “white,” but he is “white.”

ashash November 11, 2015 at 6:32 pm

*Creek

Also, many Native Americans were upset about him playing Tonto and considered it racist because he is “white.”

It is also a myth that Native American heritage is untraceable (see Bristol Palin, Colton Haynes, Gina Carano, Sky Ferreira, Armie Hammer, etc.)

Johnny Depp doesn’t want to be considered “white.” But he can get in line with the 100s of other celebrities who also claim to be part Native American but have little to none.

ashash November 11, 2015 at 7:24 pm

P.S.

Here is a closeup of his face:

http://z3.ifrm.com/67/29/0/p503877/image.jpg

If Cheryl Cole is British and she certainly is, Johnny Depp definitely could be of mostly English descent … like his ancestry proves.

neiltennant July 29, 2015 at 4:18 am

when he was younger he looked like the white boy from next door

but with the years his face has become more exotic

Capricious October 8, 2015 at 6:44 am

Exactly

California July 24, 2015 at 8:14 pm

He looks Spanish or Italian. His daughter is average looking, I honestly thought she’d be a lot prettier considering she’s the daughter of Johnny Depp. Looks nothing like him.

cwm85 July 21, 2015 at 5:41 pm

He’s several ethnicities of European groups. He is not native, he is not arab or part black. Sorry to disappoint you all. He is Caucasian.

California July 20, 2015 at 9:23 pm

He doesn’t look fully white at all!!!! Whoever says otherwise is stupid as fuc*. He looks mixed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hell sometimes he even looks Mexican!!!

cwm85 July 21, 2015 at 5:39 pm

Its called makeup, movie roles moron! He’s Caucasian, do you not want him to be of European descent?

California July 24, 2015 at 8:14 pm

LOL I was joking, dumbass. I know he’s white, I just wanted to see what others would say.

cwm85 July 20, 2015 at 3:23 pm

LOL I’ve never looked johnny Depp and thought.. “Hmmm he is native american. Greek, maybe, Italian yes. Native american? No. Really people? LOL look at him in cry baby. Dude is an anglo saxon man…

JSSNY2015 August 7, 2015 at 6:52 pm

Greeks and Italians aren’t Anglo Saxons…Anglo Saxons were Germanic tribes that invaded Great Britain. Greeks and Italians do not come from them.

neiltennant July 13, 2015 at 11:44 am

please come on

of course there are also dark typed french people

but he is too dark and too exotic to pass as european

even in italy or spain he would be too exotic

bretonblood July 13, 2015 at 5:05 am

Johnny Depp looks French to me, which incidentally is a decent part of his lineage.

Daron May 29, 2015 at 8:19 pm

He looks a little Native American.

abbracci May 28, 2015 at 2:42 am

He definitely looks Native American. I don’t know why Ethnicelebs keep denying people having Native American ancestry.

andrew May 28, 2015 at 6:46 am

it’s not documented

thomas1987 May 29, 2015 at 7:33 am

He looks white to me.

M May 30, 2015 at 5:36 pm

Sorry but he does not look like your average white man. I think that’s what makes him attractive, he’s ethnic looking.

ashash May 29, 2015 at 3:24 pm

His ancestry has been looked at extensively. Dude is not Native American. Get over it.

abbracci May 28, 2015 at 2:41 am

He definitely has Native American in him. I don’t know why Ethnicelebs keep denying people having Native American ancestry.

xoxo July 30, 2015 at 10:37 pm

He does look slightly Native American. The black part surprised me.

Jello February 1, 2015 at 6:39 pm

I really thought that he was part Native American because of his dark straight hair and complexion. He does not look very European.
I guess it is because of his African ancestry.
He should go to that show on PBS that they test his DNA to find where his entire ancestors come from.

Jordan February 4, 2015 at 3:31 pm

It is not because of African ancestry. 3/2048 will not affect his appearance.

ectag March 14, 2015 at 4:30 pm

The “3/2048 African” is the most ridiculous nonsense I have ever seem on this site, and this is a site rife with nonsense and armchair geneticists.

follers March 14, 2015 at 4:48 pm

How is it nonsense? Are you saying Depp isn’t descended from this woman?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Key_Grinstead

Capricious April 2, 2015 at 7:25 pm

Look, he is descended from her. But I just think it won’t matter so much, since 3/2048 is extremely trivial. I don’t think it would make an affect.

After all, I’m sure most of us are 1/2000 of other races/ethnicities) since humans have mixed a lot in the past 500 years.

Heck, I might be a bit Indian, central Asian, English, Jewish..etc and etc….myself

ectag June 30, 2018 at 3:43 pm

The idea that he might be ‘3/2048’ African isn’t ridiculous, what’s ridiculous is the idea that this can account for why he looks more like a typical Mediterranean white person as opposed to a typical Brit.

3/2048 ancestry is not going to influence phenotype.

There are many full blooded Brits and Irish who look Mediterranean. It’s a minority of the population to be sure, but a significantly sized minority (there are literally millions of the).

In Britain people who look like this are often thought to be descended from ancient Romans. In Ireland they are thought to be descended from Spanish sailors. In both cases it’s nonsense. The Romans occupied England for 400 years but didn’t leave a significant genetic footprint.

The idea that survivors of the British defeat of the Spanish Ramada could be responding for the ‘dark Irish’ is laughable.

It’s extremely unlikely any Spanish sailors who survived the defeat of the Spanish Ramada made their way to Ireland (the naval battles were not within swimming distance of the British Isles, and the last place any surviving Spanish ship would have headed to is the British Isles, but even in the incredibly unlikely event some survivors made it to the British Isles they would not be of sufficient number to leave a genetic footprint).

But Depp’s Mediterranean phenotype is hardly mysterious since he has substantial recent French ancestry, and people with Depp’s phenotype are quite common in France.

504creolequeen213 August 6, 2015 at 10:59 pm

Also Known as the 1 Drop rule. If we were still in those times no matter what european blood he had he would be black and enslaved. Johnny depp is what we call in louisiana a passe blanc. Im of mixed ancestry as well im a light skinned black woman but if we go by my ancestry dna analysis im more european. Things that make you go hmmmm????? Btw all her descendants didnt continue to mix with white he does have black cousins that share the same history some of the more famous ones are Irish from the group 702 and her siblings.. As a result of the Elizabeth Key freedom suit (and similar challenges), in December 1662 the Virginia House of Burgesses passed a colonial law to clarify the status of the children of women of African descent. It required Negro women’s children to take the status of the mother, whether bond or free, using the principle of partus sequitur ventrum. The statute was a departure from the English tradition in which a child received his or her social status from his or her father. Some historians believe the law was based mostly in the economic demands of a colony that was short on labor; the law enabled slaveholders to control the children of women slaves as laborers.[1] It also freed the fathers from acknowledging the children as theirs, providing support or arranging for apprenticeships, or emancipating them. Some white fathers did take an interest in their mixed-race children and passed on social capital, such as education or land; many others abandoned them.

Other English colonies (and later American states) passed similar laws, which defined all children born to slave mothers as slaves. If they had free white fathers, as many did under the power conditions of the time, the fathers had to take separate legal action to free their children. In the 19th century, the legislatures of the South made such manumissions more difficult and imposed legal restrictions on the rights of free blacks. While northern states began to abolish slavery in the early 19th century, only in 1865 did the 13th Amendment to the Constitution end slavery in the South and across the United States.

fuzzybear44 August 6, 2015 at 11:26 pm

So the ladies from 702 are related. To Depp, thanks didn’t. Know that

ashash November 27, 2016 at 8:44 pm

A person who is .001% black would not be enslaved during those times. First, the people back then didn’t have the tools to search thousands of someone’s ancestors. Second, the “1 drop rule” actually stopped at 1/32.

But I agree that they should keep it there.

noneofyourbusiness February 1, 2015 at 6:07 am

He looks Castizo. He’s looking more ethnic now as he ages. He used to look fully white when he was younger.

ectag March 14, 2015 at 4:41 pm

He looks 100% white. He has no verified non-white ancestry; in fact his known ancestry is all Northern European.

There are many people in the British Isles who have that Mediterranean look; it’s part of the natural variation in the region. They’re not all gingers.

The US has really causes people to be retarded about race. White doesn’t mean one is necessarily pale and fair haired and light eyed. He’s just one of those Anglo types who happens to look Italian-ish. This naturally occurring phenotype in the British Isles is what gave rise to the myth about dark haired/eyed Irish being descended from Spanish sailors. It’s idiocy.

Hispanic isn’t a race anyway. The ones who are all or mostly Spanish are white, the ones who are all or mostly Indian are neither white nor “Latin”.

A lot of white ‘Hispanic’ celebs are referred to as “people of color” by the race obsessed, politically correct media.

But this is all even stupider in the case of Depp, wince he has no verified non-white ancestry and the amounts of ancestry people speculate about here are so small they would have zero effect on his appearance. There are only European genes contributing to his appearance.

Sully January 20, 2015 at 12:51 pm

When he tans, he looks very Hispanic. I used to think he was English though (I guess from all the Sweeney Todds and Ichabods and Tim Burton films and what-have-you). I didn’t realize he was American until some years ago.

ectag March 14, 2015 at 4:45 pm

He doesn’t look ‘Hispanic!, he looks Mediterranean. A lot of Anglos do; its what gave rose to the legends of Irish being descended from Spanish sailors. It’s particularly common among the Welsh.

Europeans with dark hair and eyes and a tan complexion aren’t a different race from those with pale skin and light hair and eyes. You can see this variation amongst siblings for crisakes.

WTF January 16, 2015 at 9:22 pm

Overrated as hell. I mean yeah, sure he’s attractive but there are better looking men out there. His movies are getting shitty too, his earlier work is so much better than his current projects.

visokozen February 1, 2015 at 7:17 am

Agreed. And his earlier work was shitty but not as much as his current movies.

midori29 December 3, 2014 at 10:25 am

He looks like he has an ethnic non white ancestor somewhere.

FryzKo January 16, 2015 at 9:58 am

yes,he looks part native to a certain extent,obvs not fully, but still some

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