Derek Jeter

by ethnic on January 28, 2008

Birth Name: Derek Sanderson Jeter

Place of Birth: Pequannock Township, New Jersey, U.S.

Date of Birth: June 26, 1974

*African-American, some English, remote Native American (father)
*Irish, some German and English (mother)

Derek Jeter is an American former professional baseball player. A shortstop, he played 20 seasons in Major League Baseball (MLB) for the New York Yankees.

Derek is the son of Dorothy (Connors) and Sanderson Charles Jeter. His father is African-American, and also has some English, and remote Native American, ancestry. Derek’s mother has Irish, and smaller amounts of German and English, ancestry.

Derek is married to model Hannah Jeter (born Hannah Davis), with whom he has a daughter.

A DNA test whose results were displayed on the show Finding Your Roots with Henry Louis Gates, Jr. (2014) stated that Derek’s genetic ancestry is:

*59.4% European
——–*44.4% British & Irish
——–*1.6% French & German
——–*12.2% Nonspecific Northern European
——–*0.2% Nonspecific Southern European
——–*1.0% Nonspecific European
*39.4% Sub-Saharan African
——–*39.2% West African
——–*0.2% Central & South African
*0.5% Native American
*0.3% North African
*0.4% No Match

Derek’s paternal grandmother was Lugenia Jeter (the daughter of Bustee Jeter and Minnie Palmore). Bustee was the son of Green W. Jeter and Jane. Green was a Christian minister. He was the son of a white slave owner and a black slave woman, Charity.

Derek’s maternal grandfather was William Francis Connors (the son of Mary).

Derek’s maternal grandmother was Dorothy Tiedemann (the daughter of Thomas Augustine Tiedemann and Agnes Melvin). Thomas was the son of Michael Patrick Tiedemann and Frances Cecilia Pierce.


Genealogy of Derek Jeter (focusing on his father’s side) –

Kim Reinick /

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neiltennant January 3, 2018 at 4:03 pm

if he would be in Germany nobody would guess he is part African-American

of course he is dark in his face but his other features are white

fuzzybear44 January 3, 2018 at 11:57 pm

No offense, but if you people don’t see certain stereotypical features on a person that says they’re mixed, you guys are pretty oblivious to any of this stuff. They look white, well that’s good enough for you

neiltennant January 4, 2018 at 2:53 pm

am i allowed to say my opinion without any oppression ?

I know a lot of things which you cannot know brother
sometimes its better to understand certain things …

and there are things i cannot know
do you understand me ?

bearboy June 30, 2016 at 8:14 pm

ok… If everyone is dieing to hear my opinion again Jeter didn’t really need to take a DNA test. COME ON EVERYONE I could easily tell you his ethnicity by looking the guy right in the eyeball. Sometimes nostril hairs help but we gotta understand Jeter is really Hebrew national… Don’t think I’m telling the truth question mark look me up on http://www.bearboyknowsbest.highitsbearboy

neiltennant June 27, 2016 at 3:59 pm

he looks very WHITE

on this picture especially he can pass even for a white italian or south-eastern european

slowdive December 13, 2015 at 1:32 pm
bearboy September 30, 2014 at 6:47 pm

English on mother’s side as well, William Pierce.

bearboy November 13, 2014 at 11:56 am

He is also part Native American on his father’s side

follers November 13, 2014 at 1:24 pm

From which ancestor?

bearboy November 13, 2014 at 1:44 pm

It didn’t say the name of the ancestor but a reliable DNA test that was on PBS Finding your roots said so. It had all his other ethnicities accurate so I believe this is accurate.

follers November 13, 2014 at 1:56 pm

Fair enough.

Check7t August 17, 2014 at 6:07 pm

He could pass as fully Italian:×540.jpg

He said a lot of people would assume he is Jewish/Italian too.

WTF June 3, 2014 at 11:49 am

i honestly thought this fool was latino. i guess he does look a little black.

chase January 6, 2012 at 5:18 am

he is biracial you can see both races in him

Zolie January 3, 2012 at 6:57 am

I don’t think it is at all about denying what you are. It is about what the world sees you as, not what you are, plain and simple. That is just a fact. Because if it wasn’t, we would not have racism in this world.

Zolie January 3, 2012 at 6:38 am

Some mixed people (which is rare) look either totally black, white, asian and so forth. Like Kimora, she looks totally Asian. I would classify her as Asian, because if she was in a group with Full blooded Asian you could not tell if she was mixed. And that is how the world really looks at it, plain and simple. Just like President Obama, he looks totally Black, and he knows it. So it would be stupid for him to run around talking about I am mixed. He has the sense to know how the world sees him, and it is not about denying one side over the other.

Liam O'Connel February 6, 2012 at 10:35 pm

Obama doe NOT look totally black, he looks exactly how you’d expect a half black half white person to look. He actually looks more like his mothers side of the family in terms of features. You’re letting the media influence you which is the only reason why you’re saying he looks fully black, because any person with eyes can see that’s not true

midori29 March 30, 2014 at 7:20 pm

Obama looks totally BLACK. In fact on his white mothers side he has slave blood, so his white mother is mixed with African too. Obama is really a black president.


andrew March 31, 2014 at 7:28 am

he’s mulatto, his mom is white.

Greyface March 21, 2016 at 3:36 pm

I bet the majority of Americans dont even know that obama is half white, what if he was called “The first half white president” blacks would get mad

jttaino January 11, 2013 at 8:55 pm

no he does NOT he looks of euro-afro ancestry. if you look at his dad and his mom you can tell that he is lighter than him but darker than her. 0 points for observation on your part lol.

Zolie January 3, 2012 at 6:19 am

You can be mixed all you like, there is noing special about it. You live and die like all people. You can claim both sides, or one side, but nine times outta ten you will not be accepted into that white inner circle. The majority of mixed people in reality know this. This is why they try so hard to claim being mixed, as they believe in someway this will give them a hand up on not being “seen” as Black.

exotiq April 18, 2013 at 3:45 pm

lol…. And you know this to be fact? Are you mixed? white? Or are you black yourself? …You see, the reason I ask, is because as a mixed person of Latin origin myself, comments such as those that you claimed, nine times out of ten, came from a black person in my lifetime thus far. I find it interesting that those comments come from black people. Why don’t I ever hear a white person say things like that? Are they even thinking it?

There must be some sort of motivating factor behind why it is that a black person would tell a person of mixed (black and white, or black and anything else) race something such as this. Are they trying to discourage that person from denying their black ancestry in some way? Does it come from some sort of resentment? and if so, why?

…I would suspect that there are far more mixed people in this country alone than people realize, and many people don’t even have a clue. Is there a reason why a person that is mixed with black African ancestry has a responsibility to claim it? Is it important for them to do it, even if that particular person doesn’t look it or was never raised in the African American culture or community? What is the significance of the African American identity over any other race or culture? I’m just curious.

I just learned that the actor Tom Sizemore is actually bi-racial (white & black) ….Apparently, his mother is African American and his father is obviously white, because he doesn’t look like anything remotely close to any kind of African or African American ….I suspect his mother is not fully black…it’s gotta be the case for him to look as he does. I don’t think he considers himself as a black African American….but apparently his Wikipedia page classes him in the “African American actors” category, among other categories at the bottom of the page. lol :)

I wonder why they don’t call him “A person of African descent” instead? If it were any other race or nationality, they would say “People of Italian, Irish, etc. descent”, but when there is any African or African American ancestry in their bloodline, they class them as “African American…actor, singer, blank, blank…etc.” …Anyone ever noticed that? I find it all interesting….It must be an American thing…. I’m not from America, so I find it very interesting…. lol :)

andrew April 19, 2013 at 10:23 am

Tom Sizemore is not biracial, it’s clearly a mistake since anyone can edit wikipedia writing all the shit he wants

follers April 19, 2013 at 5:35 pm

Not so fast on Tom Sizemore. Although what I could find was confusing.

He apparently claimed to be half-black once: e-man-show-geffen.html

These are his maternal grandparents, Sam Schannault and Mildred Hayes. They are listed as white. ry&h=83139248

He talks about his grandpa here, and says he was part Native and part French, instead of black. amp;dq=Schannault+Sizemore&source=bl&ots=VsCN_WXwcm&sig=Y9 EPTiSPe3sTRLl_3-I9YzHoNk4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=-dhxUYWaOoW2qQGw2Y HgAw&ved=0CCgQ6AEwBA

Genealogy (maternal grandmother was Living Hayes) b=paulus-mmii&id=I10224

andrew April 19, 2013 at 6:52 pm

also his Imdb page says he is Welsh via paternal side and French/African American via maternal side but I think it’s wrong

(Brothers Paul Sizemore, Aaron Sizemore, and TOM SIZEMORE with his twin sons Jagger and Jayden.)

I think he looks a bit like Michael Madsen who also claims Native Am. ancestry

follers April 19, 2013 at 6:33 pm
andrew April 19, 2013 at 7:09 pm

curiously Madsen’ Imdb page says:

“Was considered for the role of Sergeant Mike Horvath in Saving Private Ryan (1998). The role eventually went to Madsen’s friend, Tom Sizemore”

exotiq April 24, 2013 at 5:18 pm

You might be right, but there’s also something in Wikipedia that seems to be consistent, which is what I mentioned in my original comment.

Where ever there is a famous person of mixed racial or ethnic heritage, they will categorize them as “of Italian, or Greek, or Welsh, or etc. DESCENT”, which seems fair in my opinion, but if they are partly black as well, they always seem to categorize them as “African American actor, performer, etc.”, instead of as the other descriptors. Why don’t they categorize them as being “of African or African American DESCENT”?? …Why does it seem exclusively “African American blank, blank, blank, etc.” ????? …Has anyone ever noticed that???

Try looking up anyone who is racially mixed with African or African American ancestry…’ll begin to notice the pattern. I find that to be interesting….Don’t you??? lol :)

andrew April 24, 2013 at 5:22 pm

one-drop rule

exotiq April 24, 2013 at 8:15 pm

andrew April 24, 2013 at 5:22 pm

one-drop rule

One Drop Rule??? …Are you serious right now?! You do know that so-called rule is no longer a legal rule in this country anymore, right?!

…That’s like saying that women weren’t allowed to vote at one time, but now they can, but some people still want to believe it’s true.

So an invalid rule is supposed to be something to continue to uphold? …huh???!!!!

lisa January 2, 2012 at 8:21 am

he looks like a tanned white guy to me my boyfriend who is white looks alot like him

monica August 30, 2011 at 2:39 am

he has european features, he looks like a white guy with afro-textured hair and brown skin.

rafael August 26, 2011 at 2:46 pm

has this uncle tom ever dated a black woman?so much for black is beautiful.

Mixed Girl Who REALLy IS MIXED--Not Just BLACK! August 29, 2011 at 10:30 am

…Uncle Tom??!!! …You are the ignorant one alright…It’s painfully obvious that Derek Jeter is mixed! You’d have to be a moron not to see that!!! …So for you to expect that he only be black and represent the black race, therefore expecting him to date only black women, makes you the biggest moron on the planet!!! …Uncle Tom??? …Really??? …Take your dumb ass back to school and learn someting for a change!!! This is 2011 and I’m so sick and tired of people like you always assuming that a person of mixed (black/white) race is ONLY BLACK!!! …Get with the program people!!!

rafael August 29, 2011 at 5:38 pm

mixed girl you are the moron because i’m sure his birth certificate doesn’t say mixed it says black.

Mixed Girl Who REALLy IS MIXED--Not Just BLACK! September 3, 2011 at 6:22 am

…And how would you know what his birth certificate says? Do you know him personally? Were you there at his birth? Do you know his parents personally? …Don’t assume anything. My “Quadroon” son was born in Colorado in 1988 and he is classified as WHITE, because his father (my ex-husband) is White and that state classified mixed children by the race of their fathers….So what are you going to say about that? …Are you going to accuse me of lying now??? …Besides, despite what you may think, not all biracials look black….So me and my son don’t look black and to say that we are only black would be as foolish as me saying that we’re only white!

rafael September 3, 2011 at 7:58 pm

mixed girl,i don’t have to be at a black mans birth to know he is a black man.his birth certificate says he’s black because his father is black thats a fact he is with it.

Mixed Girl Who REALLy IS MIXED--Not Just BLACK! November 8, 2011 at 9:49 am

His father may be black, but that doesn’t mean he’s solely black. Don’t discount his white mother’s contribution to his existence! He has a white family–I don’t know too many black folks that have a white family, do you???? …Stop focusing solely on the black side of his ancestry! This isn’t the 1800s nor is it the Jim Crow era!

Liam O'Connel December 30, 2011 at 12:20 am

mixed chioldren arent classified by the race of their father…I am white, I have 2 brothers who are half black and half white (we share the same irish father) and hey were born in america and they are classified as black on their birth certs (even though they’re genetically not just black). Your son is white because he is 3/4 white…wentworth miller is white too since he’s 3/4 white (his father is mixed race)…dont say silly stuff, you are NOT what you father is, you are a combination of both. I agree with you thought that rafael is a complete idiot, but to say someone is JUST what their father is is beyond silly

WTF November 28, 2014 at 2:58 pm

Rafael you are one stupid, ignorant asshole. He’s mixed so how tf is he black? Btw, he did date a woman that is mixed with black… he dated Mariah Carey for awhile.

james brown August 10, 2011 at 2:08 am

look at pages with white ethnic groups then look at black groups why is it more negativity on black mixed celebs than white groups interesting. then think about your state y black people neighborhood worse than whites then think about country why are european country richer than african country y is black associated with bad and white with good hence white lie white house clean white, black magick black thought black hole black skinn aaawwww. this is why malcolm x died because he suggest u remove the negative connotation from black then you remove the so called handicapp frombein black solets start black love black family black kindness black friend black sister black acceptance pass it on

Midnight August 11, 2011 at 4:08 pm

Hey, in a word you are why there is more negativity. I was reading your opinion and thinking to myself; “Is that guy serious?” You started off ok like you were actually going to say something helpful and then you went right to the stereotypes and racist comments. You said look at the pages with the White ethnic groups and I notice that they don’t have people coming on there saying how White neighborhoods are worse and how Africa is richer than Europe and if you want to know the honest truth Africa isn’t poor. It’s one of the biggest suppliers of diamonds in the world so I don’t get where your information comes from other than wishful thinking. The greed there is terrible but Africa isn’t poor by a long shot. People use Black in a negative way except for money. They say you’re in the black and American Express has a black card which is for extreme wealthy people so people are coming around when it comes to black. I just want you to know one more thing about Black; it’s beautiful and no one is disputing that one.

Midnight August 2, 2011 at 4:56 pm

Hey, here is something I bet a lot of people in here didn’t know. (Because we are too young really lol but thank goodness for research) Roy Campanella (Who didn’t get listed on this website) Had a father that was Sicilian (Italian) and a mother that was Black and he was cinsidered Black and banned from playing baseball until 1947; however he was actually a mixed race person whose dad was an immigrant. I’m bringing this up because he was not only birracial but his parents were married back then.

ajjjaa July 10, 2011 at 12:58 pm

it sayyys on his wikipedia that his mom is irish annndd german…

Jimmy L. Shirley Jr. July 10, 2011 at 7:38 am

The question is, which ethnicity does one embrace/proclaim if there are several? Like Barry O’Bama. He is half White. Why does he not proudly proclaim his Whiteness? Eldrick “Tiger” Woods, who is more than 1/2 Asian than Black, of which he is merely 1/4 of. Yet, the press, and him to some degree, claim his Blackness more than anything else.
The thing is also the laws, which are made to provide privilege to minorities over the White majority. If it ever gets to the point that there is only one blended race in this country, then the laws are of no value. Then it begs another question, “why would any race voluntarily breed itself out of existence?”.

t charles August 11, 2011 at 9:41 pm

Good question….because the number of whites is droppin faster than any other group….

rafael June 2, 2011 at 5:05 pm

wow what a shock the father is black thats never the case in mixed couples.

Yeah okay August 2, 2011 at 1:55 pm

Yes it is. It is just that in more recent decades, white women and black men have been attracted to eachother which was once the absolute most taboo relationship in America. Many white slave owners kept black concubines and had kids with them FACT. Please don’t be fooled by American history class conveniently leaving this out during the American slavery lessons.

WTF November 28, 2014 at 3:05 pm

Rafael are you really that stupid or are you a troll? Most mulattoes have a black father and a white mother. Of course there are some mulattoes with a black mother and a white father, but 9 times out of 10 the mom is white and the dad is black. Both of my parents are mulattoes and both of my grandmothers are white and both of my grandfathers are white. I also have a lot of mixed friends and know a lot of mixed people on Instagram and the majority has white mothers and black fathers. I’m not sure wtf you’re on, but you should stop smoking, idiot.

WTF November 28, 2014 at 3:07 pm

SHIT I meant my grandmothers are white and my grandfathers are black. I really wish the fucking owner of this gotdamn site would stop being so lazy and add a fucking EDIT option.

WTF November 28, 2014 at 3:08 pm

A lot of black women admit that they aren’t attracted to white men and vice versa. It’s rare to find a mixed person with a black mother and a white father. If a white man decides to marry/date interracially he either marries an Asian woman or a Hispanic woman.

harris March 10, 2011 at 9:59 am

It is very difficult to tell someone to forget the past and let it go when you were in fear of your life because of the those racist views. It was ingrained in you. The generation that is coming up now, likely will not carry those same feelings or views because of the so-called changes in society, however, to expect those who have been tramatized throughout their life and family history by this bigotted country cannot just turn off the switch because society all of a sudden felt it is better to not enforce racism outwardly anymore.( Although those feelings have obviously not vanished among some in this country.) Black people who have experienced much racism in either their lives or been exposed to it through the media’s portrayal of blacks can see that racism is STILL alive and well today. It is beautiful that now people are able to identify on job applications and on the census bureau what their ethnic make up is. They couldn’t do it in the past. Now I’m sure blacks back then could say amongst themselves what their background was (some didn’t have to because living in the same community they would’ve known) but in the end the country still viewed them as black. They had to just accept that. The generations now coming up won’t have to. They can now proudly say that they are not only black but white, native american,etc., However, at the end of the day, black people know that no matter what their ethnic makeup is if one of those is black they will never be viewed as an equal. Yes, even today, if you are not considered white society will still think you are lazy, violent, ignorant, loud, ugly, fried chicken and watermelon eatin, etc….Sad but true…Just be proud of who and what you are. Only remember, that for many generations in this country blacks were not allowed to feel that way for themselves or their culture. So, don’t get upset if they feel proud of anyone of african ancestry who is doing well and proving that they are more than what the world portrays them to be.

dana December 2, 2011 at 8:07 am

he is what he is white mother and black father dont deny your parent accept everything you are you are denying partof you im italian and german and irish i am a mix myself

exotiq January 24, 2011 at 4:02 pm

Derek Jeter, just as any other racially mixed person who has African ancestry is simply mixed. Period. I’m tired of the One-Drop-Rule nonsense. That so-called rule was abolished a very long time ago and for people to continue to tout it today are simply racist, ignorant and are equally hard-pressed to accept change…change for the better! If people don’t start growing a brain, that stupid mentality will never die and it needs to because it was originally created by racist whites and it seems that many blacks today are the ones who want to keep it alive now. Stop bringing up the past and the Jim Crow days and all of that bullsh*t…Live in the present…not in the past…the past is dead and gone…good riddance!!!

fuzzybear January 25, 2011 at 2:42 am

To exotiq

I know you will most likely get mad at me,but I’ll speak on this anyhow.How is not calling someone black a change for the better?A change for who?How does one word hurt people so much?I understand mixed,and even if I call you black,at the end of the day,your still mixed.Me black calling you black didn’t change that fact.Also if I call you black,I’m not do it to hurt you.It’s just that I recognize,that your part of the same culture I’m from. When a white person has black and Asian blood,but looks like a white person,he’s called white;and no one say anything.However when a black person(excluding you)is mixed with white or whatever,but looks like a black person,and is called black all of a sudden WW3 has been declared.I’ve heard all kinds of things,like(don’t you call me black,I hate when people call me black,and you just want me to deny my white mommy)That last one is my personal favorite.This is an old story,about mixed bloods wanting to separate and be seen as better than their darker brothers.It didn’t work before,and I doubt it works now.The reason I say this is because despite what you believe,it’s not black people holding you back,it white.You say it’s a new day,but there are plenty of white who are very comfortable with yesterday.Now you say the past is dead and gone,but for many parts of this country nothing has change.I give an example,I have a cousin whose bi-cultural,her white side completely disowns her because she’s half black.The grandparent had the mother crying,saying they would never claim that child,and it doesn’t matter that she looks completely white.However on our side of the family,she doesn’t get treated like that.Now you say the past is dead and gone,who are you kidding?

Fuzzybear January 25, 2011 at 3:55 am

Meant to say I’m not doing it to hurt you

TOTAL23 June 1, 2011 at 4:56 pm

Okay What About Vice Versa? I Never Heard People Call Someone Who Is White And Has Black In Them White? That’s New For Me! And To Be Honest Every Example That You Said Fuzz Happens In A Lot Of Ethnic Familie’s (Not All). On They Have A Thread That Allows The Users To Speak About Which Side Of Their Family Do They Have Problems With, Some Say Their White Side, Some Say Their Black Side, Some Even Say None Of Their Sides Give Them Problems. This Really Shows That Their Are Too Many Tension Between Blacks And Whites, And It Needs To Stop, In General!It Kind Of Gets Me Upset That People Are Still Fighting Over Race….I Don’t Know Why I Can’t See The Way You See It, There Has Never Been Racism Around Me Like That (Between Whites And Blacks)….But There Has Been Racism With Blacks And Brown People…But Not Always….It Is Really Hard For Me To Put Myself Into Someone Elses Shoes When Their Experiencing Racism…

Fuzzybear June 2, 2011 at 4:24 am

To total

What are you talking about,you’ve already been told that at least 1/3 of the white population here have black blood at 2-20%;but they’re still called white;and this is not counting children.Example,This woman right here:
Bliss Broyard
is she called black,no.does she fell black,no.Does she call herself black,no;but is she part black,yes
Now from my experience,it tends to be more so the white side doing the rejecting.The black side has always been more quick to except a child like that.Most of the stories I read and heard are also from that point of view.This new thing about the black people acting up is new to me.Granted it usually the older white people,that still trip;younger ones tend to be cooler.Although going by the ones on this site,you would never know it.

Now your right,there wasn’t always tension between black and brown(sound kinda to me saying black and brown,but whatever).These two groups once got along great.I know you’ve heard of the Black panthers,but have you heard of the Brown Berets?Don’t know what happen with them,maybe Jose La Raza mind set got in the way
My thing is this,what is this thing about black.Why are people so scare to admit they have it.It’s in their history,in their blood,it even mixed up in their culture;so why lie about it.Also what is this problem with being called it.It’s not a magic barrier,that keeps you from learning or embracing all that you are;it’s a word.The only way it can stop you embracing anything is in your mind.Most of the people I know are black,but is that all they are ,NO.Does their world stop because they get called black,NO;they don’t miss a step.Doesn’t hurt them one bit.So it’s rally hard for me to understand that;and so far no one has giving me a good reason.Also I don’t want to hear,you want me to deny my momma.Does that word make them incapable of loving their parent,No.Does it stop them from learning about their parents family,No. I don’t know maybe I’m a little to much for people,but I’m actually am trying to teach them something.People have been taught that they are 10000% pure,but they are not;they’ve been lied to,but they seem to want the lie.Actually if you knew me,this stuff would never really come up.Also I only really Experience very little racism(very little)

total23 June 2, 2011 at 4:50 am

I Know That 1/3 Of The White American Population Has Black Lineage….But What You Said Is That When White People Have Black And Asian In Them Theyre Considered White…And I Said That That Is News To Me Because Based On Articles, People Who Had Black In Them And They Were White Were Not Considered White….For Example Halle Berry’s Daughter, Nahla. She Has A White Father And A Grandmother Who Is White So She Is 75% White (Depending On DNA) Because She Is Moslty White. But People See Her As A Mixed Baby. There Was This Other Guy Who Was White And Had A Black Grandmother; In Virginia his father was considered black, and he and his siblings were considered black despite the fact that they are 75% white (depending on DNA) and there are many others. That’s What I Mean! I Also See Someone Who Is Black But With A White Grandparent Called Black, Yes There Are People Who Would Ask Why This Person Was Light etc…But They Were Still Called Black….Im Just Saying, These Are My Experiences, Your Experiences Are Different So Maybe Your Speaking From Experiences.

how comes you havent answered my other question on the other celebrities?

Midnight August 26, 2011 at 4:32 pm

Hey, I have and here are their names. Joan Benette. Carly Simon, Carol Channing, and some have even said William H Taft.

It is I January 25, 2011 at 5:11 am

To fuzzybear

Calling a mixed person what you think they look like is still incorrect because they are not one or the other. No, it does not change that person’s ancestry but putting them into a box just based on what you see “because its easier” isn’t very fair to that person. Only a mixed person could truly understand how frustrating it is to have people constantly try to label us just so we can be under their thumbs “because its easier.” No, racism is quite obviously far from over but the only way to progress from the past is to move forward and stop living in the past. Those people can have their intolerant mindset but that does not mean that that girl should disown her white side because it is still half of her. Without her white mother she wouldn’t exist. She could be the the rock that stands between the swirling tides and take a stand and show pride in who she is. We can come far from the past but we have to look forward first.

To exotiq

I also grow extremely tired of the one drop rule. But its effects seem to have reversed and its kind of ironic. First whites wanted to bind mixed people to black and nothing else. And when mixed people were allowed to claim their mixed ancestry black people began to try to bind them black and nothing else. Its so ironic. It is the mentality of black supremacy that people dont seem to see. Black is equal to all other races and no one is better or superior to the other. I am Black but I’m also Indian and Japanese and it is not fair to call me what I look like “because its easier.” I dont even see why ethnic background matters, I’m Human. Were all human.

fuzzybear January 25, 2011 at 5:58 am

To It is I

You have me mistaken,I don’t call you black because it’s easier.I would call you because it’s what I see.People don’t walk around with signs saying what they are or what they want to be called.I don’t know if their mixs is FG or from a 100yrs ago.But trust this I would call them what they want to be call,I have no problem with that.Oh BTW you said only a mixed person would understand, well I’m(Creole,afro-latino,2 native tribes,and most likely chinese)and I still don’t see the problem with being called black

major January 25, 2011 at 6:06 am

The real problem is,they’re never confused for white.They always see the black part first,and that’s what they can’t stand.They need to cut the crap,if they had a pill that allowed them to change from bi-racial to white they would take it so fast it would make your head spin

exotiq June 1, 2011 at 4:23 pm

Hmmm….Interesting comment. Judging by that comment, you’re implying that it’s an insult that someone with African ancestry is automatically ashamed to be…Why would you interpret it in that manner? …Are you ashamed to be black yourself??? Why do people like you always seem to think that you’re some specialized detective that can ‘read between the lines’ of what people say? Why is it when someone says they are mixed or biracial or mulatto, etc., you automatically hear the words “I’m not black”???? Is it because you are an African American Supremist who believes that someone with any amount of African ancestry is automatically ‘just black’ PERIOD? Looks like you guys have decided to carry on the torch left from racist whites–So now you’re doing their dirty work for them???? …Why would you do that? Did they promise you something????

If you are Korean and I called you Chinese…Don’t you think you’d be offended as well? I don’t know about you…but, I know allot of Asians and Latinos that hate to be mislabeled. It’s not about being ashamed of being who you are…Being mixed with African Ancestry is not a reason to be ashamed–certainly not today!!! You seem to think that we’re still living in the times of slavery or Jim Crowe where it was dangerous to admit your African ancestry as a mixed person for fear of ridicule or fear of being lynched….WTF!!!???

You’ve proved that you yourself believe in racist views and must be a racist with your own skewed, outdated perspective of what you believe to be so, when it’s not—You seem to believe that everyone else is ashamed of having African ancestry….I guess…like yourself?

Yeah…I’m mixed…Sub-Saharan/European/Eastern Asian….That’s what I AM…not what I WANT TO BE…or What I want YOU TO BELIEVE…there’s no shame in being who I am…

Bottom line—DNA Doesn’t Lie—So, Why should I ???? …To satisfy ignorant mindsets that can’t move on into the present, out of the past??? …I’m no one’s puppet and I’m not dumb cattle following the herd to slaughter–I have an intelligent mind and I can think for myself.

…And BTW…most people who meet me for the first time, don’t see African ancestry within me…I look Hispanic and that is how I identify…Why? Cause it’s the truth…not just because I look that way! I have a Latin surname, I was born in a Latin country and raised in a Catholic Latin/Caribbean culture–in America…So, I’m not African American and I will never be! …BUT, I agree that I’m black, white AND Asian….I’m mixed….Nothing more, nothing less…

Oh…And I’m not interested in calling myself WHITE either!!!! …Cause I’ve heard that enough times too–It’s like if you say you’re not ‘just black’, it must be automatic that you WANT TO BE WHITE!!! lol :) …Why are people so simple that way?!! lol …The world is not black or white, so you guys need to stop thinking in those terms.

Culturally, I’m an American Hispanic (or Latina) FIRST…then my racial mix is revealed second….That’s the order in the way most people identify themselves–CULTURE FIRST …I’m no different.

I can’t be any kind of African American when I wasn’t raised in the AA community or culture and I truly resent it when an AA wants to insist that I assimilate to the African American lifestyle once they learn of my racial mix. It’s as if they imply that’s the ONLY WAY TO BE, and that’s how they judge you by teasing you and saying such things as “you’re not black enough” or “you just wanna be white” and other nonsense like that just to try to make you feel inferior….It’s like you feel the pressure to either join them or face ridicule.

I might have made that mistake when I was younger and unsure of myself, but now that I’m much older, stronger and know who I am, I won’t ever let another racist (white, black or otherwise) allow me to feel inferior ever again! I’m mixed…I’M MIXED…I’m biracial…I’m mulatto….I’m black, white & asian—NOT ‘JUST BLACK”! …You don’t like it? Tough….You don’t live my life and you can never be me!

African Americans need to be happy and satisfied in being who they are and they need to respect other ‘blacks’ who don’t share their culture….’African American’ is only one type of black culture—there are hundreds of thousands around the world.

Midnight August 10, 2011 at 2:50 pm

Hey, have you seen Sammy Sosa? There is a pill and no one is taking it. I don’t think Biracials have a problem with being Biraical (Half and Half what ever they may be)but a problem with mono raced Blacks not allowing them to claim their other heritages. (If they are half Black) There is this thing that goes on in some people’s brain that makes them really hostile about this subject. Some people I’ve run into online like to refer to mixed race (Black mixed with other) as house slaves and all kinds of nonsense. What they don’t realize is that a lot of the people of mixed heritage got that way in today’s world and not that way back when slavery exisited. Derick is a great example. His parents were born way after the occurance of slavery yet surprise he’s a mixed race person. I say it like this because they way some people make it sound. There wasn’t any force and hatrid in the production of Derick; just two parents two different races one terrific kid, the end.

It is I January 25, 2011 at 10:28 am

I never said there was anything wrong with being called black because I am mixed with black. But if you simply choose to call me that because that’s what you see I will correct you but I would not be offended, it would be silly for me to get offended because it IS part of me.But if people only preferred to call people by what they see this world would be even more shallow than it already is. I will not be offended because many people mistake me for other things as well. It is part of who I am and I love it but it is not all of who I am. After my mother died (she was half Black and half Indian) I was raised mostly by my grandmother (my father’s mother who is Japanese Dominican) and she taught me not to judge a book by its cover and that everything is not as it seems. She taught me that just because I do not look that much like her does not mean that I am not part of her. So I am sorry if my mind is too open to be something other than one race, because I know who I am and I would like to acknowledge that fact. It is obvious to see that race is nothing more than appearance to you. Its not necessarily a bad thing but I believe its far more complicated than that. But I understand what you mean.

fuzzybear January 26, 2011 at 2:19 am

To (It is I)

It’s easy to get the wrong impression about someone,see I would actually never call you black.I mean I don’t walk down street saying(hey black person come here)if I was to call you,it would be by your name.Also to tell the truth,if you ever met me it most likely would never come up;unless you brought it up.Then I would be more interested in if you spoke Japanese,and if you could teach it to me.See the problem I had with your statement was,that being called (Black) binds you,How does it do that?See I’m black,but like I said I’m also((Creole,Afro-Latino,2 native tribes,and most likely Chinese)And I do everything I can to learn and embrace those heritages.You should see my computer,I language sites,pictures etc.I do everything I can to learn about my heritage.I don’t feel bound by anything,and saying I’m black doesn’t stop me.Also no one has every been able to give me a reasonable answer to why it would stop them.I know that every black person I see up here is most likely mixed with something else,but when you call us black,we don’t feel trap(not that I’m saying you feel that way).Now although you may think I have a close mind,I respect what your grandmother taught you.My grandmother hated black,which is why she married a white man on purpose,she wanted no black children(out of 12 kids,she got one),and my other Madea went the other way.Well you did get the wrong impression of me,me calling someone black is not me telling them to forget any other heritage you or they have.That’s something I would tell anyone to do

fuzzybear January 25, 2011 at 6:33 am

To It

One other thing,how does calling a mixed person black bind them?The way you make it sound,is as if your flying high in the clouds mixed.Next thing you know,someone calls you black you drop to the ground like a stone.You say look to the future, but your stepping on the past.On those people who bled so you could openly say I mixed,don’t call me black am I supposed to forget them?Now again I say calling you some mixed person black doesn’t hurt them,is after part of who they are,whether they like it or not

It is I January 25, 2011 at 10:48 am

I have no idea why there is a need for overly creative extremity in this situation. You are being very one sided. Once again I never said there was anything wrong with being called black. In fact, I call myself Black, Indian, and Japanese. It is wrong to tell me that I am black and nothing more just because that’s what you see. The only reason why I am so called “stepping on the past” is because too many people are still stuck there. I never forget where I come from and I know where I am going. Just because black is a part of me does not mean that I will pay the most attention to that just because my distant ancestors were American and Domincan slaves from West Africa who were not allowed to legally call themselves anything other than black because they were half or part black. I only stand on the past because that’s where we still live, refusing to advance to the future. Again I ask,why does a person’s ethnic background matter so much that you have to point it out?
Don’t let your extreme imagination make you wander from the topic.

fuzzybear January 26, 2011 at 2:51 am

To It is I

Ok maybe I did over dramatized just a little bit,but I was on topic.Now I still don’t see how being called black does all that.I mean from what you said,you might not look that much like your grandma.So how am I to know your Japanese also,unless I come up to you?You said you would correct me,and I would be like cool.I would be a pain to you,because like I said,I would want you to teach Japanese if you spoke it.Now you mention your ancestors,how far off is your African line anyhow(you don’t have to tell me if you don’t want,I’m just curious).Also your ancestors might not have been slaves,there were thousands of free black here,who were never enslaved;that’s something you can check out;if you want. Now you ask(why does a person’s ethnic background matter so much that you have to point it out?)The answer is it does,I lay awake at night thinking about this stuff.However that is what this whole site was about,ethnicity.I’m going to stop here,because as you put it,my extreme imagination was going to wander from the topic again

Midnight July 29, 2011 at 4:30 pm

Hey, I guess he got his White mixture as a result of slavery since we are going to the one drop rule which went out with the bath water.

kickup September 19, 2010 at 1:22 pm

yes a FIne Black mixed dude…Blk Rules lol

exotiq January 24, 2011 at 4:08 pm

…”a fine black mixed dude”???? …Make up your mind…Either he’s black or he’s mixed! If you’re going to say that, it could also be said that he is “a fine white mixed dude”! Why wouldn’t you say that he’s “a fine white/black mixed dude”???? …That would be a more accurate description!!!! …Stop acting like everyone who is mixed with African ancestry is just simply black…They are more than just black. You need to go back to school and learn about genetics!!!!

fuzzybear January 25, 2011 at 2:53 am

To Exotiq

See now here it looks like your trying to enforce you will on her.She sees Jeter the way she wants to,and you see him you way.Now I’ve seen black people of almost every color my entire life,and never have I heard or seen one say don’t you call me black.Now I can tell that many of them are of mixed heritage,but not one would get upset if you call them black.There are alot of other things more important to worry about than someone calling a mixed blood black

exotiq June 1, 2011 at 4:53 pm

LOL…You’re funny! ….Your argument is fine and well…BUT….I bet you’d be quick to jump up and want to argue BIG TIME if they called him simply WHITE!!!! …NO…You’d put your foot down on that though!!! So why does it make it any different if he just called himself BLACK??? …But you’d be perfectly fine with that though, right?! No disputes there! …Double standard BS, if you ask me!!!!

Besides….I wouldn’t call anyone with mixed ancestry anything other than MIXED OR what THEY WOULD WANT ME TO CALL THEM…..That’s the key…I don’t go around ‘one dropping’ people…just cause I can…. I was raised with manners and to be respectful of others.

ethnic May 6, 2010 at 1:55 am

Cute analogy Chantal

Chantal May 6, 2010 at 12:45 am

The world is a box of crayola! The white crayon doesn’t get used much unless it’s with black paper.

color? April 19, 2010 at 5:16 am

nice looking mixed man

thetruth March 15, 2010 at 2:09 pm

douglas murphy you are an ignorant racist person who is the reason that there can be no racial harmony your anti-white and elitist attitude that everyone is black and black rules all sickens me and you are the very reason that there is no unity and i pray you don’t have children you bigoted close-minded black pantered mentality hate-monger!

Tess June 7, 2010 at 5:39 am

Black people did not make up this rule. It was on the books thats a black person despite color or racial mixture was black. It was on the books, legally, that anyone mixed with black was black – the one drop rule. And any person mixed with black had to sit in the back of the bus during Jim Crow etc. Blacks who lived through Jim Crow hold this vision because tehy are so used to their lives being in danger if they do not. They are not the hatemongers, the lawmen who enforced this rule were. And to be fair, many White people still hold this view. Look at the response to Obama – people call him the N word etc. They see him as an other. So before attacking a black person, understand that they were following the law of the land and only in the past 30 years or so – if that – did the law change. The one drop rule. People of color could lose their lives if they challenged it. So when you meet a 60 year old black person who thinks this way, remember how much danger they would have been in if they didn’t.

fuzzybear June 7, 2010 at 5:43 am

That’s right

exotiq January 24, 2011 at 4:14 pm

…Past 30 years? Really? …Don’t you think you need to add a few more years to that figure? That rule died out much longer. Unfortunately, it lives in the minds of people who haven’t figured out that it is a new day…I realize that change takes a while for many people to grasp…it’s sad.

fuzzybear June 7, 2010 at 6:04 am

To the truth

You say Racial Harmony,yet what’s one of the words that came from you,(Black) Hate-monger.Sounds to me like your a little racist yourself.So before you go off on someone,check yourself first

thetruthhater October 19, 2010 at 8:04 pm

shut up you douche.
go read another thesaurus so you can throw your multi-syllable preachings on another wall

Douglas Murphy September 12, 2009 at 8:46 pm

It is a general known fact that any person mixed with african american blood is generally considered as black or african american person. Now what is all the fuss about. As far as I am concerned, all people are human beings with shades of black

Tess June 7, 2010 at 5:41 am

Technically yes because all people came from Africa. I suppose one could say that although there is some new evidence that separate life sprung up at the same time in other regions but in general, the first signs of human life were in Africa so technically we are all of African descent.

ethnic May 16, 2009 at 12:54 am

I tend to agree with CoolCat, another example is Jason Kidd. He is half Irish and Black and looks more on the white side. Jennifer Beals is another irish black person who looks just white.

janille May 15, 2009 at 8:49 pm

Yeah well I know he was mixed and I knew that he was black I just didn’t know what he was mixed with!

coolcat April 27, 2009 at 5:46 am

wow…i didnt know he was mixed either! im sorry but the people mixed with irish and black just look white

Fuzzybear June 2, 2011 at 6:04 am

To Total

What I said was true,you think any of of those Americans,thinks of themselves as black?;they call themselves white.Halle and her child are different,everyone knows them.If I saw Halle’s daughter,I would have thought about the father being white,because I see this all the time.I have a little 2yrs old cousin,that makes halle daughter look black.Both parents are black people(well the mother is light)yet the child is how she is.The grandmother who is my older cousin is very dark(forever making jokes about who is this little white baby on my leg).Also black is more than skin color,it culture.That might be how that family is seen or how they feel.My father probably was 75% white,but if you had called him anything other than a black man,you would have had a fight on your hands;because that’s how he saw himself.I didn’t even know my grandfather was white,because they never talked about him(or I didn’t ask) Walter White of the naacp saw himself as a black man:
Have to cut this short,basically yes our Experiences are different,also what other celeb?

Fuzzybear June 2, 2011 at 8:10 am

To Total

What I said was true,you think any of of those Americans,thinks of themselves as black?;they call themselves white.Halle and her child are different,everyone knows them.If I saw Halle’s daughter,I would have thought about the father being white,because I see this all the time.I have a little 2yrs old cousin,that makes halle daughter look black.Both parents are black people(well the mother is light)yet the child is how she is.The grandmother who is my older cousin is very dark(forever making jokes about who is this little white baby on my leg).Also black is more than skin color,it culture.That might be how that family is seen or how they feel.My father probably was 75% white,but if you had called him anything other than a black man,you would have had a fight on your hands;because that’s how he saw himself.I didn’t even know my grandfather was white,because they never talked about him(or I didn’t ask) Walter White of the naacp saw himself as a black man:

Have to cut this short,basically yes our Experiences are different,also what other celeb?

Something wrong

Mixed Girl Who REALLy IS MIXED--Not Just BLACK! September 3, 2011 at 6:53 am

Looks like it boils down to what other people perceive you to be….Even though you may have black ancestry, if you look white, you will be viewed that way….Same as reverse–if you look black, you will be perceived that way.

What irritates me as a mixed person who has an ambiguous appearance, it becomes interesting once a black person learns that I am part black, they all of a sudden expect me to assimilate to the black culture and when I don’t (because I wasn’t born in the USA, nor was I raised in the black community), they try to accuse me of ‘hating my black side’ or ‘running from my so-called ‘blackness” or that I’m ashamed of being solely black because I don’t want to be known as simply just a black person, when I know and it’s clearly obvious to others that I’m not…. It’s like you can’t please certain black people–as a mixed person, you’re damned if you do claim ‘blackness’ (because some will accuse you of not being ‘black enough’) and you’re damned if you don’t (because then you’re being called a ‘self-hater’)!!!

This is why I’m proud of my Hispanic/Latin heritage and since that is all I know, I’m content with that and I only associate with people who accept me for me and not what they want for me to be—those I can do without and if it happens to be many blacks, then so be it….I’m not losing any sleep over it…Life is too short and everyone wants to be happy, I’m no different. I don’t need the drama from small-minded individuals.

TOTAL23 June 1, 2011 at 5:24 pm

I Know What Your Heritage Is, But I Get Confused Because You Are Really Mixed! I Just Don’t Get The Grandparents Thing!

Did Your White Grandmother Disowned You Or Her Black (Or Mixed With Black) Child? Is She Your Maternal Grandmother? The One That Married Your Afro-Latino Grandfather?

Wut About Your Fathers Side? Is That The Side That Will Put A Fight If You Say They Are Anything But Black? Or Is It Your Mother Side? Or Is It Both?

I Know You Have Two Caucasian Grand Parents…I Think? And A Creole Grand Parent? And A Afro-Latino Grandfather? I Am So Confused….Please State Maternal Or Paternal To Identify Which Side They Belong In Your Family…That’s Only If You Want!

fuzzybear January 26, 2011 at 2:56 am

correction:Meant to say it doesn’t matter,I don’t lay awake

fuzzybear January 26, 2011 at 2:57 am

To It is I

correction:Meant to say it doesn’t matter,I don’t lay awake

Mixed Girl Who REALLy IS MIXED--Not Just BLACK! September 7, 2011 at 7:04 pm

lol …Seems you have to deal with accepting that this is 2011 and you need to stop reciting the racist white man’s mantra of the “One Drop Rule”! …That’s something I’ll never understand…why many blacks (as well as racist whites) will still cling to such an out-dated, archaic and unjust myth….And it is indeed a myth because America is the only country where this ignorance lives on in small-minds! …And again, you nor I really know what his birth certificate actually says and regardless of what it says, you nor I have the right to identify him as only being black—That’s HIS choice since after all, he is MIXED and mixed people like myself, have the right to choose. …Now YOU deal with that!

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