Rihanna
02/24/2016 – Rihanna – BRIT Awards 2016 – Arrivals – O2 Arena – London, UK – Photo Credit: Landmark / PR Photos
Birth Name: Robyn Rihanna Fenty
Place of Birth: Saint Michael, Barbados
Date of Birth: February 20, 1988
Ethnicity:
*father – mix of African-Barbadian and European-Barbadian [Scottish, English, Irish]
*mother – African-Guyanese
Rihanna is a Barbadian singer, songwriter, businessperson, dancer, record producer, and actress. She has been Barbadian Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary, since 20 September, 2018.
She is the daughter of Ronald Fenty, who is from Barbados, and Monica (Brathwaite), who is from Guyana. She has two children with her partner, American rapper, songwriter, and record producer ASAP Rocky.
Rihanna’s paternal grandfather was African-Barbadian. Rihanna’s paternal grandmother, who is white, has Scottish, English, and Irish ancestry. Rihanna’s mother is of African-Guyanese descent. In an interview with Allure magazine, Rihanna stated that she was bullied in school and called ‘white’ by the other kids while growing up in Barbados.
Rihanna’s paternal grandfather was named Reginald Leslie Forde (the son of Helen Forde). Helen was the daughter of Joseph Nathanael “Joe” Forde and Louisa Jane Bascom.
Rihanna’s paternal grandmother is Elizabeth “Betty” Fenty (the daughter of Stanley Fitzherbert Fenty and Hilda Olga Coppin). Elizabeth is white. Her parents were born in Barbados. The surname Fenty is usually Scottish and the surname Coppin is usually English. Rihanna’s grandmother is also cited as having Irish ancestry. Elizabeth is from a family of “Red Legs,” descendants of slaves from the British Isles who were sent to Barbados. Stanley likely was the grandson of John Fitzherbert Fenty and Mary Louisa Jane Fenty.
Rihanna’s maternal grandfather is named Lionel Brathwaite.
Rihanna’s maternal grandmother is named Clara “Dolly” Viola Venetta Johnson.
Rihanna in 2011
Sources: Genealogy of Rihanna – https://www.geni.com
Death record of Rihanna’s paternal great-grandparents, Stanley Fitzherbert Fenty and Hilda Olga Coppin – http://www.findagrave.com
Obituary of Rihanna’s maternal grandmother, Clara Viola Venetta (Johnson) Brathwaite – http://downesandwilson.com
She is a beautiful mixed race woman. She’s not Black. Her eyes are green. That’s a result from the Irish in her. Non-mixed Black people cannot have colored eyes!
you obviously know nothing about black people, do research on peoples of Africa before you make dummy comments, but she did get her hazel, not green eyes from her dad’s side, yes hazel!!!
No, well they’re actually green. Hazel has to be 50/50 since the majority is green that’s what it’s considered. (Learned that at the DMV)
to Princess, you sound very ignorant its sad. ANYBODY can have light eyes. Even non mixed black people. & Yes she Is black. She’s more black than anything else. Honey, please educate yourself.
you are not the decider
“EatEricRoberts” what a crazy nickname!
To “Meladean”… Wow, you must be joking, right? You seem to be the ignorant one, not “Princess”. Black people with colored eyes have European admixture. Take a genetics class and a science class, and you will learn this. It is impossible for someone of full African descent to have colored eyes.
Yeah she is black. Black people can have light skin and light eyes regardless if they are mixed or not because of the huge diversity in the African phenotype.
Actually non mixed blacks Can !!! just like they/we can have blonde hair google black people with colored eyes !
The mutation for blue and lighter eye colour only occurred after populations left Africa. The same for mutations for light skin, blond and red hair etc. So no a full Africa will not have non-brown eyes. The thing today is that many populations are mixed (even in Africa).
“Originally, we all had brown eyes”, said Prof Hans Eiberg from the University of Copenhagen, who led the team.
Blue eye colour most likely originated from the near east area or northwest part of the Black Sea region, where the great agriculture migration to the northern part of Europe took place in the Neolithic periods about six–10,000 years ago.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/3323607/Blue-eyes-result-of-ancient-genetic-mutation.html
@alice
Ok my question is this, when did the pale skin mutation happen, and what did people look like before that mutation?
They would have been dark skinned. Europeans descend from more than 3 ancestral populations.
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29213892
http://eurogenes.blogspot.com.au/2013/12/ancient-human-genomes-suggest-three.html
@Alice I was writing my comment,and didn’t you had answered
@Alice
I was hoping you would have answered this before I had to leave.However i read the article,but it doesn’t say a full African can’t have light eyes.All it says is that it occurred when people left Africa,it says nothing about them not being black people anymore.Leaving Africa doesn’t change what you are or were,it just means you move to a new area, and call yourself something different now.Also when people migrated back to Africa,didn’t mean they change.Most blood mutations are (10.20,25,40,000yrs old),and those said people were black(umbrella term)
I see your article is written in 2008.However the ones written in 2014,say Blue eyes preceded pale skin by likely a wide margin,and the person who had the blue eye was black skinned.:http://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/outdoors/richard-collins/new-discoveries-are-changing-what-we-believe-of-our-ancestors-258930.html#
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2546421/Blue-eyed-caveman-7-000-year-old-DNA-reveals-European-African-traits.html
In the second article,the pic they drew makes no sense.The description they gave doesn’t fit the picture,maybe they were looking at happy gillmore when they were drawing it,because he looks just like the golf caddy:
http://theinterrobang.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Happy-Gillmore.jpg
All those mutations you mentioned preceded the pale skin.Now if I’m not mistaken,don’t Asian have a different pale skin mutation from Europeans.Also don’t Melanesians have a different blond hair mutation from whites:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9kz_iEC7dzY/TYI7fvyGXzI/AAAAAAAAAGI/JTf–B4KLGI/s640/blonde-melanesians.jpg
So how is it you say Africans can’t have their own mutations(like everyone else),seeing as Africans have the same genes as everyone else?It’s obvious they can have blue eyes,it’s just rare:
http://i.imgur.com/WOGdB.jpg
http://wetu.com/ImageHandler/1280×1280/15341/Kunene-River-Lodge-Resdest-Namibia-Kaokoland-Kunene-Himbavisit21.jpg
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/92/18/3f/92183fe2b988f63783d9b68284ee103c.jpg
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/e4/0b/4e/e40b4e079e873b82b0c66e8e2fb00047.jpg
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/85/b0/c9/85b0c9da30680aa543a546cd4b92c88e.jpg
As you can see,some of these blue eyes look different.Most try to say there are 3 different reasons for blue eyes in Africans
1.European help
2. Waardenburg Syndrome
3. Natural mutation
The Rendille people who have been back in Africa for at least 5000 yrs,do have a good chuck of Eurasian heritage.They were studied back in the early 1900’s by various people like (William A. Chanler)who described them as :
the unmixed Rendille that his party encountered as tall, slender and reddish-brown in complexion, with soft, straight hair and narrow facial features and “fierce” blue eyes”.The description was backed up by other explorers in later years.Now I used them because I think after 5000 yrs,that makes them African again.The Eurasian DNA simply means that they lived in a area(ate the foods,fought off the illnesses,)which change their blood,then they went back. The pics I see today don’t show blue eyes,but that mean they didn’t have them.
People have evolved over a period of time. The people that left Africa would not be the same as present Africans. People in Africa have evolved as well as groups that have left Africa. The genes for lighter skin, lighter eyes evolved in people that left Africa. Blue eyes are not typical in Asian and African populations. It’s not really difficult to grasp that different groups have adapted different traits otherwise we would all look the same.
The blue eyed mutation has been traced to a single individual. There has not been numerous mutations of blue eyes. This is how they can pinpoint where it occurred. Looking at individuals who have blue eyes they all have the same mutation. The gene for light skin is found in Asians (a different mutation than Europeans) and Europeans.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080130170343.htm
@Alice
(People have evolved over a period of time. The people that left Africa would not be the same as present Africans)
I never said they were like present day Africans.Many of the Africans that left were little blacks like (pygmies,Bush men,) later taller ones like (abs and so-called Negroes) left, while others came back
(People in Africa have evolved as well as groups that have left Africa)
Yes that’s true,but what people don’t seem to know is that Africa was a highway.People went in and out ,and turned around and did it again.However nothing said their skin color changed.If the pale mutation is only 6000 yrs old like they say,then the people who came back 10k must have looked the same color wise just like the people who were there. Phenotypical changes may have taken place( like soften hair,or Caucasiod nose).The in house Africans may have been taller, who knows.
( The genes for lighter skin, lighter eyes evolved in people that left Africa)
Ok say it evolved outside,who says it was a one shot deal.People left Africa 70,000 yrs ago,yet it took 63,000 yrs for them to turn light.Mean while as other spread out,others went back’
( Blue eyes are not typical in Asian and African populations. )
Exactly,which is where mutations come into play.As you said ,people continue to evolve even in Africa.After all even outside of Africa blue eyes started in one person first.
(It’s not really difficult to grasp that different groups have adapted different traits otherwise we would all look the same.)
Now Now,I can grasp the concept of people during this and that.But what I’m saying, is Africans have the same genes everyone else do,which means they have the same potential to mutated.As I have shown,the mutations are continuously happening.This is one reason why Albinism(in all it’s many forms) is so common in africa
@Alice
(There has not been numerous mutations of blue eyes.)
I feel pretty sure that the people I have shown are not related to that blue eyed person(of so long ago),yet they still have blue eyes.Some of those people had (Waardenburg Syndrome) which is a mutation that affects their eyes,which mean there is more than one mutation that gives you blue eyes
Even your article admits:
“it simply shows that nature is constantly shuffling the human genome, creating a genetic cocktail of human chromosomes and trying out different changes as it does so.”
The mutations for light skin and blue eyes have been traced so scientists know where they occurred. People adapted to different conditions over a long period of time. Northern Europe would require different traits to survive than Africa. The reason why Eskimos kept their dark skin is because of their fish rich diet. Europeans needed lighter skin to absorb Vitamin D when they started farming. In Africa it is an advantage to have dark skin due to the high amount of sunlight. Darker skin is not so advantageous in Northern Europe which is why some darker people have to take extra Vitamin D so they won’t have children that develop rickets and bone conditions.
http://www.nasw.org/article/vitamin-d-levels-determined-how-human-skin-color-evolved
http://evoandproud.blogspot.com.au/2010/07/vitamin-d-hypothesis-and-ancestral.html
Blue eyes are just depigmented. The reason why people have blue eyes is because a switch has been turned off so that they don’t produce melanie in the outer area of the iris. The children with Waardenburg Syndrome don’t have the normal mutation for blue eyes. There eye colour is due to the disease. They also have distinctive features. It’s just like how dark hair can turn a reddish tint due to malnutrition. They don’t have the genetics for red hair but the result of malnutrition affects their hair colour.
@Alice
Everything you wrote in your last two comments i already know.However this part here:
(Waardenburg Syndrome don’t have the normal mutation for blue eyes.)
That’s what I’m saying ,it’s a different mutation that still produces blue eyes.Those articles were written in 2008,and as you see long standing facts are continuously being change.It’s no telling what the new ones will say.
Well anyhow,have to go it was fun.No hard feeling, love you like a play cousin
Final quote Rhianna is 70% Black West African and I stand by that percent.
People just are not good at determining admixture. I am a black South American, I have seen numerous racial combinations I have been exposed to this since childhood. My mom would point out what combination of races her Carribean people were
I know dna and mixtures a mile away. RHIANNA is waaaaay more than half black. RHIANNA is mostly black West African about 70% and if she took a dna test I would be 100% correct. Vanessa Williams types are 50% West Africa waaay light er amd different featured than Rhianna.
Everybody’s “Black” to you.
I can also agree to put Rhianna at the 60 to 70% range too as her Guyanese mom might have 5% of something else. As black Guyanese are similiar to African Americans.
Rihanna has Middle Eastern and Mexican roots as well.
No she doesn’t.
No she doesn’t.