Ariana Grande

by ethnic on May 6, 2011

Ariana Grande

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Birth Name: Ariana Grande-Butera

Place of Birth: Boca Raton, Florida, U.S.

Date of Birth: June 26, 1993

Ethnicity: Italian [Sicilian and Abruzzese]

Ariana Grande is an American singer and actress.

She is the daughter of Joan Grande and Edward Butera. Her parents are of Italian descent. She stated on her Twitter account that she is of half Sicilian and half Abruzzese Italian ancestry. Her maternal half-brother, Frankie Grande, is an actor, dancer, and musician.

A picture of Ariana’s father can be seen here, and a picture of some of her father’s family can be seen here. A picture of Ariana’s mother can be seen here. A picture of Ariana’s paternal grandfather can be seen here, and a picture of Ariana with her maternal grandparents can be seen here.

Ariana’s paternal grandfather is Anthony Vincent Charles Butera (the son of Charles A. Butera and Marie). Anthony was born in New Jersey. Ariana’s great-grandfather Charles was born in New Jersey, to Italian parents, Antonino Butera and Magherita Azzara, from Menfi, Provincia di Agrigento, Sicily. Marie was Italian. The surnames Butera and Citrano are Sicilian.

Ariana’s paternal grandmother is named Florence P. Citrano. Florence was born in New Jersey.

Ariana’s maternal grandfather is Frank Anthony Grande (the son of Antonio “Anthony” Grande and Felmino “Philomena”). Frank was born in New York, to Italian parents. Antonio was born, c. 1900, the son of Raffaela (b. 1876) and Sabato Grande (b. July 1877, in Lanciano, Province of Chieti, Abruzzo, Italy), and moved to the U.S. in May 1903.

Ariana’s maternal grandmother is named Marjorie.

Ariana also once twitted that she “just found out my grandparents are heavily greek and part north African”, and then specified “…the chart says Greece/Italy. I just thought it was funny. I’m assuming the North African bit is Moroccan or Tunisia?”

Ariana’s reference to “the chart” makes it likely that she took some sort of DNA test to map out her potential heritage. DNA tests for people of Sicilian descent sometimes indicate some kind of Greek or North African ancestry.

Ariana Grande 41st Annual American Music Awards - Arrivals

Photo by Prphotos.com

Sources: Genealogy of Ariana Grande – https://www.geni.com

Ariana’s paternal grandfather, Anthony Vincent Charles Butera, on the 1930 U.S. Census – https://familysearch.org

History of Ariana’s maternal grandparents, Frank Anthony Grande and Marjorie – https://www.youtube.com

Ariana’s half-brother, Frankie Grande – Photo by Prphotos.com

{ 92 comments… read them below or add one }

Pegzi May 27, 2017 at 4:13 pm

Manchester was so sad :(

andrew May 7, 2017 at 5:12 am
luckystar August 31, 2016 at 6:43 am

Paternal grandparents + butera’s family
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BDQ02qYCcAIXI2L.jpg

luckystar August 19, 2016 at 12:25 am

Of course she looks like she is mixed like some mexicans and of course some mixed people can look whiter than her
But why? Well, its because she use spray tan machine and a lot of makeup to make her look less white
Its called cultural appropriation, she sings R&B. While, many mixed people like the mestiza mexican Selena gomez, try to do her best to look whiter than they actually are. Mixed races to be accepted has to look “white”. White people can stole cultures.
She looks average southern italian in her real phenotype
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/25700000/Ariana-Grande-Photoshoot-Outtakes-ariana-grande-25735875-353-240.png

memphis June 5, 2017 at 7:46 am

Ariana looks very Italian. Italians depending on where they are from the equator can get very very dark…some could pass for “African American’ or Puerto Rican. Greek ancestry has influence from North African or Horn African. Looking at her mom, I would say she would have 6-9% African ancestry…her father is pretty dark Mediterranean also.

andrew June 5, 2017 at 1:18 pm

Not at all. No Italian girl from Italy would go around with that ridiculous fake tan, hair extension and make up. Are you sure to have checked her parents’ pics? You mean that Liza Minnelli looking woman? Her father is not particularly “dark” or “Mediterranean”, he looks generic European. Also Greeks and North/Horn Africans are completely different people.

andrew August 17, 2016 at 4:31 pm

history of Ariana’s maternal grandparents:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFiLpdAnZZk

luckystar August 19, 2016 at 12:11 am

What is marjore’s surname before marriage?

luckystar August 19, 2016 at 12:11 am

Marjorie

luckystar July 13, 2016 at 12:27 am

The ancestry dna says italy and greece https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTTihnkixqeHHeKaboj1K1uZeCqAlU3Xiwium59cDuS2I4cYjoT-QuY66FV

But 23andme doesnt have this line, so she prob took this one

luckystar July 9, 2016 at 12:12 pm
luckystar July 4, 2016 at 5:05 pm

you should add
” Her grandfather, Frank Antony Grande, married his wife Marjorie when they lived in New York in what was then an inclusive Italian neighborhood.”

Blackbuddafly June 27, 2016 at 12:13 am

Looks mexican

ArnyDiaz July 11, 2016 at 10:53 am

Mexican is not even ethnic

bearboy May 25, 2016 at 1:59 am

Ariana Grande was not tested by 23andme… or at least not by the test she is describing. I have taken the test by that company and there is no Italy/Greece for that company only Italy under southern European. From my experience from taking DNA tests the only company that has and Italy/Greece category is ancestry DNA. BTW she is silly to say her grandparent were heavily Greek when the category Italy/Greece means it could be one or the other not necessarily she is (or her grandparents) are of both cultures.

luckystar June 3, 2016 at 9:53 am

OF course she was tested by some dna ancestry
she says ” chart” at 2014 https://twitter.com/arianagrande/status/454407790602104832

and then at 2015 she says ” kiss me im siciliana/abruzzese
https://twitter.com/arianagrande/status/578093610819670016

sicilians are mixed with balkans and north africans

luckystar May 23, 2016 at 3:22 am

This pic looks way better to put on this site
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/events/Ariana+Grande/ariana-grande-handprint-ceremony-01.html

It was taked at the same year as the second picture publicated here

luckystar May 23, 2016 at 3:08 am

Butera is also a sicilian surname. Her father is clearly sicilian.

andrew May 21, 2016 at 4:58 pm

Familyhistoryinsider.com link does not work. You could add a picture of her father:
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/arianagrande/images/6/66/Ariana-eddie-picture.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150329042700

and of her mother:
http://images.j-14.com/uploads/posts/image/42766/joan-grande-ariana-grande.jpg

maternal (?) grandparents: https://teeninfonet.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/arianay100jingleballbs-26.jpg?w=1200

“Citrano” surname is Sicilian. Lanciano is in Province of Chieti, Abruzzo, Italy.

luckystar May 14, 2016 at 10:35 pm

plus, in the florence census also says:
Citizenship: American Citizen Born Abroad

it means that someone was born in another country, but came to the United States and got citizenship, so her parents was prob italian-born

luckystar May 14, 2016 at 10:31 pm

Florence Citrano was prob of italian-born parents because in the CENSUS she is orphan.

Name: Florence Citrano
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1934
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: New Jersey
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Orphan
Home in 1940: Newark, Essex, New Jersey

luckystar May 13, 2016 at 1:41 am

his mother*

luckystar May 13, 2016 at 1:40 am

“Eddie was born on September 20, 1958 and raised in Maplewood, New Jersey. He graduated from the NYIT in 1981 with a degree in advertising and design. He then worked at different design companies in New York City where he met Joan Grande in the early ’90s. ”

This is the only Anthony V. Butera lived in Maplewood, New Jersey.
Anthony V Butera

in the 1940 United States Federal Census
Name: Anthony V Butera
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1928
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: New Jersey
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Son
Home in 1940: Maplewood, Essex, New Jersey

and her mother was born in ITALY
Name: Marie Butera
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1901
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Italy

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gss=angs-g&new=1&rank=1&gsfn=Anthony++V.&gsfn_x=1&gsln=Butera&gsln_x=1&msypn__ftp=Maplewood%2c+Essex%2c+New+Jersey%2c+USA&msypn=7813&msypn_PInfo=8-|0|1652393|0|2|3244|33|0|988|7813|0|&msypn_x=1&msypn__ftp_x=1&MSAV=1&cp=0&catbucket=rstp&uidh=a02&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&h=134575218&db=1940usfedcen&indiv=1&ml_rpos=1&hovR=1

luckystar May 12, 2016 at 3:59 pm

Felmino “Philomena” Grande in the 1940 Census

Age 43, born abt 1897
Birthplace Italy
Gender Female
Race White
http://www.ancestry.com/1940-census/usa/New-York/Philomena-Grande_840s7

Anthony Grande in the 1940 Census
Age 40, born abt 1900
Birthplace Italy
Gender Male
Race White

http://www.ancestry.com/1940-census/usa/New-York/Anthony-Grande_840s6

Frank’s parents (Ariana’s great grandparents), Anthony (Antonio) and Philomena (Felmino) Grande, were both born in Italy.

luckystar May 10, 2016 at 9:52 pm

This site should specificated more about her ancestors
Her mother is Abruzzesse and Her father is Siciliano
Her father is called Edward Butera, Butera is a place in SICILIA
so is a sicilian surname

Ariana Grande has said that she has Italian ancestry, stating that she is half Sicilian and half Abruzzese (Abruzzo is an Italian state on the east coast of the country). Both her father and mother are of Italian descent. Her great-great Grandfather Sabato Grande was a native of Lanciano, Italy. Ariana has found through DNA ethnicity tests that she is part North African and heavily Greek, which she tweeted. Ariana’s grandfather, Frank Anthony Grande, who passed away in 2014, was born October 23, 1923 in Kings County, New York. Frank met his wife Marjorie as teenagers while they were growing up on the same street in an Italian neighborhood in New York. Frank Grande and Marjorie married soon after he graduated high school. Frank enlisted in the United States Navy on May 10, 1943 as a skilled mechanic. Steelers Lounge http://steelerslounge.com/2016/01/lost-ancestry-ariana-grande-8217-s-ancient-abruzzese/241183/

ethnic May 11, 2016 at 2:06 am

Thanks for the info Luckystar.

luckystar May 11, 2016 at 10:56 am

Frank’s parents (Ariana’s great grandparents), Anthony (Antonio) and Philomena (Felmino) Grande, were both born in Italy. Anthony was born in Italy in 1900 and emigrated with his parents Sabato and Raffael Grande in May 1903. Sabato Grande was born in July, 1877 in Italy; Raffaela was born in 1876 in Italy.

luckystar May 12, 2016 at 1:53 am

Philomena Grande in the 1940 Census
http://www.ancestry.com/1940-census/usa/New-York/Philomena-Grande_840s7

she was born in italy :)

Mafia888 April 30, 2016 at 9:24 am

Mexicans look Native American

Mafia888 April 30, 2016 at 7:56 am

Mexicans look Native American. I’m Italian.

phaedra April 24, 2016 at 12:20 am

That’s how Sicilians. Not sure what the fuss is about here.

Greyface March 29, 2016 at 7:33 am

cute in the first picture, gross in the second one

luckystar March 20, 2016 at 10:57 am

Ariana grande without spray tan machine is whiter than many sicilians(thanks abruzzese genes from her mother sides)

http://cdn01.cdn.justjaredjr.com/wp-content/uploads/pictures/2010/04/ariana-grande-shrek/ariana-grande-shrek-premiere-04.jpg

savanna March 20, 2016 at 12:06 pm

Ariana used to look a lot like Brittany Murphy (who also has Italian heritage)
http://i.imgur.com/Taui7C9.jpg

luckystar March 20, 2016 at 3:12 pm

+ Julianna Mauriello

luckystar March 26, 2016 at 12:15 pm
follers March 18, 2016 at 6:41 pm

In the future, everyone in the U.S. will look like her.

(Once Italy colonizes the U.S., that is).

fuzzybear44 March 19, 2016 at 1:07 am

Don’t try to scare me now, I have enough to worry about with trump

follers March 17, 2016 at 4:10 pm

Ariana Grande is so ethnically mysterious and ambiguous. What could she be? Is she Latina, black, what? Her very existence is a brain twister.

Greyface March 17, 2016 at 11:17 pm

she said African on twitter so I think shes black but she looks latina plus her name is like taco grande

luckystar March 18, 2016 at 9:02 am

African? http://news.mtv.it/gossip/ariana-grande-rivendica-origini-italiane-twitter-siciliana-abruzzese/

Plus, Grande means the same thing in italian, portuguese and spanish, Grande is an Italian name. The Italians,ancient Romans, imposed their Latin language upon the Spaniards. 99% of the Spanish names are Italian. Learn Roman History.

savanna March 19, 2016 at 11:17 am

1/4 Italian, 1/4 Mexican, 1/4 Doughnut Licker, 1/4 Mariah Carey Impersonator

fuzzybear44 March 16, 2016 at 11:27 pm

Luckystar
(@fuzzybear44

” Also there’s no proof either way about what color Ariana or Jimmy particular ancestors were.” hahaha bizarre
Ariana grande doesnt have any Sub-Saharan African ancestry, and youre really wondering that stupid thing.
North african and Middle eastern are caucasian, they are a different haplogroup than black sub saharan. :)
If you have some black on you, then you test will show sub saharan ancestry, ask Mariah carey

@luckystar

I couldn’t reply to your comment directly because of some site problem, so I’ll put it here

First I never said Ariana had Sub-Saharan blood nor was I wondering anything about her. I said there was no way of telling what those ancestors who contributed that 2% looked like. I was right when I said that ancestor could have looked black, white or in between. Being part of a different haplogroups don’t mean your outward appearance is different. Also, Sub-Sahara African has some of the same Haplogroups as North Africa . Japan has multiple haplogroups(yet the people look similar) so does Europe, so why would Africa be different. In Sub-Sahara, you can have 3 or 4 different Haplogroups within people of the same group, yet they all look alike . North Africans are called Caucasian today, but all the way up until the early 1900’s, they were listed as Negros. The slave laws of the U.S. between 1740- 1848 were very clear about that. There were and are plenty of blacks or blackish people in North African always have been (non slaves).The Almoravid dynasty That ruled Spain and builted Marrakech were black Berbers for sure, everyone agrees on that. You have black Berbers all over North Africa , and in its history. Multiple Sultans of morocco were Black without a doubt like(Abu al-Hasan Ali ibn Othman and Abu Inan Faris) .They’re just not promoted like the lighter skin one are. Many Berber groups were also pushed to the Southern parts of the countries. I’ve shown all this before, And can show different images now. Like these old images here from Tunisa :
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/22/8f/a7/228fa73ad178d3f229c96803eba48218.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c3/4e/fc/c34efcfdbdff147267e613b03f82473c.jpg

(North African and Middle eastern are Caucasian)

Being called a Caucasian seems to be more political, than actually phenotypical. All North Africans and Arabs are called that no matter what they look like. As I said, They weren’t even listed as Caucasian until the early 1900’s. Although the Moor Sundry Act gave Moors their white privilege, only the Syrians and Lebanese petition to be seen as white, not the whole Middle East. These people here are Arabs, who would be seen as a Caucasian:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3600/3496240301_9fcf70e2ff_b.jpg
These Bedouin Men
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/16/3b/8b/163b8b7f9f7529ac22ae0f54823a61d0.jpg
Do they look Caucasian to you

luckystar March 17, 2016 at 12:24 pm

@fuzzybear44

no, only sub saharan people are NEGROID, and she has nothing to do with it. She is only Italian/Greek and a bit Arabe, like many people on Italy, so 100% caucasian.

luckystar March 17, 2016 at 3:31 pm

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3600/3496240301_9fcf70e2ff_b.jpg
These Bedouin Men
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/16/3b/8b/163b8b7f9f7529ac22ae0f54823a61d0.jpg
Do they look Caucasian to you”

Of course there are black people in North africa but they are not majority and they do not constitute the ethnicity of the people. These Bedouin men clearly does have sub saharan genes, it could show in some 23andme, Ariana grande do not.

fuzzybear44 March 19, 2016 at 2:18 am

@ Lucky

Well first just for the record, Negro wasn’t even referring to Sub-Saharan Africans. It was referring to North Africans

(The Negro Laws)

SECTION 4 The term Negro is confined to slave Africans (The ancient Berbers) and their descendants. It does not embrace the free inhabitants of Africa, such as the Egyptians, Moors, or the Negro Asiatics, such as Lascars.

This law was put in place, because the first slaves taken were actually North African Arab Berbers, and not West Africans

Also as far as black people not being the majority, you’re looking at today population. Generations ago ,North Africa was a must different place. Especially at the time of whatever ancient of hers lived, populations do change. Plus many of the North Africans look mixed with black , and the DnA says so. So how could they be 100% white

Quote(only sub saharan people are NEGROID)

So all those white people who live in the Sub-Sahara area, are Negroid . I mean it makes about as much sense as all those black people in North African, here in the U.S. and the Middle East being called Caucasian

As I said, it’s more political, than actually phenotypical
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XUPZokMb6A

Now as for the These Bedouin men from the Middle East. You say they may have some Sub-saharan genes. Well big surprise, most of the Middle East has some Sub or East African genes. Also Contrary to popular belief, many blacks groups are actually indigenous to the Middle East and their DNA is Eurasian. Which makes sense seeing that They were the first people in the place Also thanks to the in and out migration, almost all (if not all) Sub-Saharan Africans have Eurasian DNA.The blacks that were Indigenous to North Africa, wouldn’t have Sub-Saharan blood .Now for the black arabs of the Middle east and North Africa, it doesn’t matter if the have Sub-Saharan genes,they’re still labeled CAUCASIAN even when it’s plain that they are not.
this man here from Libya whose DNA is north African seen as Caucasian:
http://static.dnaindia.com/sites/default/files/1943851.jpg

Also from what was said above, Ariana wasn’t to clear about her africa dna, other people just filled in the blanks

andrew March 19, 2016 at 7:07 am

fuzzybear, let me say…you’re a fool. We know your agenda. How many times you have to show that Egyptian man and those nomadic people…North Africans mainly live on the Mediterranean coast and don’t look like that, if you’re so curious about North African phenotypes you just have to watch tv, Salah Abdeslam is an extremely common North African guy. Btw North Africa is a big place and not all the people look the same. Riffian Berbers and Kabyle Berbers sometimes have light features and a pseudo-European look while Egypt has a lot of SSA-admixed people. About the Census, if Diddy’s stepson in America is “black” (he looks uber North African), millions of North Africans would be listed as “black”.

andrew March 19, 2016 at 7:15 am

also despite North Africans are on average very different looking from any European group, there’s a huge gap between them and Sub-Sarahan people. I meet people from both groups (NA and SSA) every day, so I know.

fuzzybear44 March 19, 2016 at 8:25 am

@Andrew

I was wondering when you would jump in, but Name calling really? My agenda is very clear, Factual history. Not that false stuff we’ve been taught (but you guys don’t want to deal with that.). As far as Dr. Mostafa Hefny , I’ve used him once, when I was dealing with you , But his story is very key to my point. That they are called Caucasian even when they are NOT. Also only the lighter berbers live on the Mediterranean. All the darker berbers have been forces to the Southern parts of the Countries , during colonialism. Just like Europeans have done everywhere.

Quote(Btw North Africa is a big place and not all the people look the same.)

Well that’s exactly what I’ve been saying. You have white Berbers, Black Berbers, and a MIXs.

Quote:(About the Census, if Diddy’s stepson in America is “black” (he looks uber North African), millions of North Africans would be listed as “black”.)

Well first Andrew, we born Americans lists ourselves now, so it’s our choice. So it what Qunicy family see themselves as (black). Also if you’ve pay attention, you would know that many North Africans actually do want to be list as black( despite being told they can’t) Again Dr. Mostafa Hefny story . Also because of MENA campaign you would see most don’t want to be called white or Caucasian.

fuzzybear44 March 19, 2016 at 8:35 am

@Andrew

I also know North and SSA to , That how I first learned some of the stuff I do know (talking with them everyday), So I know also. Also that what mixing does to populations, it changes them . So you’ll have light, dark, and everything

andrew March 19, 2016 at 6:42 pm

“Also only the lighter berbers live on the Mediterranean”.

You don’t get that all North Africans live on the Mediterranean coast (also Atlantic for Morocco) or in the Nile Valley in Egypt. The inland is all desert. That’s where those black nomads live, and they’re not even the 1% of North Africans. About that Egyptian man, it’s probably a Nubian and he’s more SSA-admixed than average Egyptian, I personally know a lot Moroccans and they don’t look like him. He does not look distinctly “MENA”.

fuzzybear44 March 19, 2016 at 10:59 pm

@Andrew

Don’t you understand what you just wrote. You just stated that at least 1% of the North Africans live inland,( the Desert). Last time I checked , those countries were huge, and the desert is not the coast. Now as far as (Dr. Mostafa Hefny ), it doesn’t matter if he’s Egyptian or Nubian or whatever. The point that you seem to be unable to understand, is that labeled Caucasian whether he wants to or not . He clearly states he’s black.

Quote(I personally know a lot Moroccans and they don’t look like him. He does not look distinctly “MENA”.)

Well first he’s not Moroccan, so it doesn’t matter if he looks like one them or not. Second of all The MENA campaign says this, and I want to make sure I quote them right:

(For many Americans, checking the right box on the U.S. Census form is a reflexive gesture, whether it’s marking “black,” “white,” “Hispanic,” “Asian,” “American Indian” — or all of the above.

But for Americans of Middle Eastern and North African descent, or “MENA,” it’s a real head-scratcher. They come in a variety of phenotypes and shades—ranging from pale to deepest ebony, and hail from 22 different countries, from Iran to Egypt to Sudan. And yet, for the census, since the beginning of the last century, the MENA community has been lumped into the “white” category.)

So Andrew, Dr. Mostafa Hefny fits right in the category

luckystar March 19, 2016 at 7:35 pm

@fuzzybear44
These Bedouin men does have sub saharan genes because they look clearly black, they do not constitute the ethnicity of the people in North africa, because they were never majority.
North africa always used slave labor of Middle East, like Hebrews…. the population of Hebrews in North Africa was bigger than natives people. They never had contacts with blacks, negroids sub saharan people

Youre just a black man, so you wanna claim everyone black. Thats is the big diference, i am italian and my 23andme shows 0% sub saharan, but it shows some north african and middle eastern, since YOURE BLACK you prob does have many sub saharan genes.

luckystar March 19, 2016 at 7:37 pm
fuzzybear44 March 20, 2016 at 1:07 am

@luckystar

First those Bedouin men weren’t from North Africa, I got them from Saudi Arabia. I also stated that the majority of Middle East probably has Sub or East African genes, so no big surprise.

Quote:
(they do not constitute the ethnicity of the people in North africa, because they were never majority.)

Now if you wish to ignore a country that was as racist as they come. A countries that dealt with the Berbers on a constant bases. Dealt with them face to face. A countries that wrote (LAWS) that clearly said that the Berbers were Negros. Of which here is another of my favorite laws, :

The Moor Sundry act
which clearly states, that free citizens of Morocco were not subject to laws governing blacks and slaves. That Subjects of the Emperor of Morocco being Free in this State are not triable by the Law for the better Ordering and Governing of Negroes and other Slaves

If you want to ignore that, then that is your choice.

Quote:(They never had contacts with blacks, negroids sub saharan people)

Ok now you’re just being delusional. Here’s a video documentary stating what color the Almoravids berbers were.12:40 mark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McYHEz_7cDY

Quote:(Youre just a black man, so you wanna claim everyone black.)

So you’re saying just because I’m black , that I’m incapable of telling the true. That I can’t be intelligent and just maybe know more about this subject than you. That’s interesting. I could say just because you’re white, you’re a racist, but what would be the point . Also saying someone has a black ancestor, is not calling them or turning them black . Now talking about being untruthful , that’s funny coming from you, seeing how you just told a lie, You said you had no SSA ancestry, yet here you said :

(luckystar (Eva Longoria site page)
November 9, 2015 at 4:42 am
OK, I’m from Uruguay and all my great grandparents came from Italy I’ve done DNA testing and have small Arab genes and consequently, 0.3% sub Saharan appeared, so I’m afro Uruguayan?

Also yes I have SSA genes, I also European and NAtive gene. However so what, doesn’t mean I’m not telling truth

fuzzybear44 March 20, 2016 at 1:27 am

@Luckystar

Yes, North Africans are very racist, I never said they weren’t.
Racism is taught, and when you’re raised to think you’re better than someone else , that’s how you act. When people are miserable , they need someone to hate. People are easily manipulated, and they follow the leader. Most of the time, they don’t even know why they’re hating someone else. However no matter how racist the place is , doesn’t change the history

fuzzybear44 March 20, 2016 at 1:37 am

correction- Kept writing (countries) , and not just (country)

luckystar March 20, 2016 at 10:47 am

@fuzzybear44

” 0.3% sub Saharan” Irrelevant enough, i almost forget.
Ah thank you for making that point: I am an Italian with 0.3% sub saharan, ariana grande is an italian with 0.0% sub saharan, italians are individuals people, just remember.
Italian is knowing for being ” part ” arab, not black. North africans are racist because they are not black, or maybe sub saharan people are self hating, i dont know.

fuzzybear44 March 21, 2016 at 12:29 am

@lucky

(” 0.3% sub Saharan” Irrelevant enough, i almost forget.)

Oh please stop it, you purposely left it out. The only thing you did forget, is that you told me about it.

Quote( I am an Italian with 0.3% sub saharan, ariana grande is an italian with 0.0% sub saharan, italians are individuals people, just remember.)

Everyone is an individual , you’re not giving any profound information here

Quote:(Italian is knowing for being ” part ” arab, not black)

That’s crap, most people probably assume Italians are part black. That’s you guys that like to stick to that arab story. Anyway you’re part SSA , so there are some Italians that are part black ( at least in your family)

Quote( North africans are racist because they are not black, or maybe sub saharan people are self hating, i dont know.)

The one thing I do agree with about what you stated here ,is that there is a lot of things you don’t seem to know

P.S.
You’re also part SSA, so I guess you’re self-hating to

andrew March 21, 2016 at 7:54 am

@ fuzzybear

the man stated to be from Uruguay, who knows if he’s really Italian. The are tons of Uruguayans with Italian last names, who don’t look Italian at all.

example (Edinson Cavani): http://www.latestanelpallone.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/edinson-cavani-122274170.jpg

luckystar March 21, 2016 at 9:25 pm

@fuzzybear44
0.3% sub saharan = part black?
hahaha
all of my family are white, im blonde, my father is blonde, my mother is blonde, my grandparents are blonde
the black genes came from 827(learn arab history of sicilia), no 1500, 1960…
some arabs came to italia with less than 10% sub saharan genes
then it shows in some italians, but the majority are only “part’ north african, not sub saharan.

@andrew

Uruguay is a white country, there are less than 8% mestizos here, all of my family came from italy and its documented. Ive done a dna test when i wasnt in my country, and my 23andme results shows 0.0% native american(indigenous). Uruguay’s indigenous population was decimated completely since 1832.

luckystar March 21, 2016 at 9:29 pm

My grandparents came with their parents in (30s) from sicilia and veneto.

fuzzybear44 March 23, 2016 at 11:05 pm

@ Andrew

Quote:
(example (Edinson Cavani): http://www.latestanelpallone.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/edinson-cavani-122274170.jpg)

He looks like Rafael Nadal meaner brother

fuzzybear44 March 24, 2016 at 12:02 am

@ Luck

Quote:
(0.3% sub saharan = part black?
hahaha)

Did it show up in your DNA results(YES it did). Then that means it part of you , no matter how Irrelevant you may think it is.

Quote:
(all of my family are white, im blonde, my father is blonde, my mother is blonde, my grandparents are blonde)

So what, blond hair is just a family trait of yours. At least one grandparent gave you that SSA ancestry, and they have a higher percentage than you do . Blond hair does mean a thing, this girl here has blond hair, and grandfather is black:
chanel van waeyenberge
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/80/e9/92/80e992a290a2dd836f40c6cd92cb5dd3.jpg
this girl mother is black
Maya Fahey:
http://dailyentertainmentnews.com/wpgo/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Maya-Fahey-Victoria-Rowell-dughter.jpg

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(the black genes came from 827(learn arab history of sicilia), no 1500, 1960…)

Do you actually believe your SSA bloodline came in the year 827, which is what 1200 years ago?. You can not be that diluted. With the percentage you are, your ancestor lived about 200 years ago or 9 generations

Quote:
(some arabs came to italia with less than 10% sub saharan genes)

That’s funny, because in your earlier comment you said North Africans arabs had no contact with SSA. However now you say some had 10% SSA blood. You have to make up your mind, which story to stick with.

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(then it shows in some italians, but the majority are only “part’ north african, not sub saharan. )

How are going to say what other people do or don’t have in their bloodlines. Here’s a chart from one of our fellow bloggers (Check7t) , that goes against what you’re saying:
Nicholas Turturro site page:
it shows
Moroccans
Mozabites
N. Italians
North Africans
S. Italians
All have some percentage of SSA and East African DNA
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18pweJqe-qdkTbsCNtkDA3b4ybLe0BQ_R_etMfoe-LqE/edit?hl=en_US&authkey=CNz4togB&pli=1#gid=0

luckystar March 25, 2016 at 9:06 am

@fuzzybear44
North Africans had no contacts with blacks in Africa. But the Middle Easterners who settled north of Africa had many black slaves. These blondes people are not pure black daughters, and maybe their parents arent even ” black”, based on your racial census, which is ridiculous, I could guess. Arabs invaded italy centuries ago, is not present. Genes do not disappear, and Arabs are individual. Some Italians does have Asians ancestors as Middle Easterners had contacts with this racial group, it shows in many 23andme of Italians. Most people in Italy doesnt have any sub saharan genes. http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/41342-Italian-Sicilian-and-Greek-23andme-results!

fuzzybear44 March 26, 2016 at 12:48 am

@Lucky

Ok, the only I’m indulging in this conversation with you , because I need the distraction. I just hope you’re purposely being willfully ignorant.

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(North Africans had no contacts with blacks in Africa. But the Middle Easterners who settled north of Africa had many black slaves. )

This makes no sense at all. The middle easterners who settled there, would now be North Africans. However you say That North Africans had no dealings with SSA’s?
Have you every heard of the paid mercenaries called
( The Black Guard):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guard
or what about the 12th century cultural center of knowledge (Timbuktu) in West Africa:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbuktu

Here’s a picture of Algerians signing into Ellis Island. Notice what some of them are:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/PSM_V82_D021_Algerian_berbers_at_ellis_island_coming_to_fill_a_theater_engagement.png

Here’s a article about Black Tunisians, who make it clear they are not descendants of slaves :
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/04/keep-silent-tunisia-confronts-racism-201441912163763970.html

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(it shows in many 23andme of Italians. Most people in Italy doesnt have any sub saharan genes. http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/41342-Italian-Sicilian-and-Greek-23andme-results!)

You can’t even understand the information on the chart you put up. Almost everyone’s DNA result show SSA ancestry ,are you blind

luckystar March 26, 2016 at 1:25 pm

Italians have never had significant contact with blacks, but had with North Africans and Middle Easterners. Middle East’s people led sub Saharan genes to italy and even to the North of Africa. Also irrelevant, since most Italians who did 23andme do not indicate anything SSA. Nothern italians are 100% european.

luckystar March 27, 2016 at 4:40 am

@fuzzybear44
Soldiers, isolated cases … I die with the crap you show me to try to prove the relevance of blacks in ancient society.
And Im gonna tell you again: Blacks have never been and will never be majority in North Africa, and also will never be the ethnicity of the country. North Africans have always used slave labor, of Middle East. The population of Hebrews in North Africa was greater than native people.
Because were neolithic peoples who settled in North Africa, and for centuries, there were not periods of migration.
Ah, and Ariana is 100% caucasian race
Italian and a bit Arab.

fuzzybear44 March 29, 2016 at 12:28 am

@ LS

Oh please, LMFAO. The only thing Neolithic about you , is your intelligent(very primitive). Your math skills are bad, and you can’t comprehend what you read. I have given Laws by the people who saw them (Face to Face),that shows the people of North Africa were Majority black in the past. I have given a Documentary showing that black Berbers ruled Spain and North Africa. I Have proven North Africa Berbers had much contact with SSA (when you said they didn’t).The DNA evidence you yourself plus(Check 7t) put up, shows that Italians have recent SSA ancestry within the last 9 generations. I have proven that black people were in Italy , when you said they weren’t. You have proven NOTHING!!!!. Now you want to do racial insults. Well this only confirms that you’re a sad little racist, that I want nothing to do with. So Say what you want, I want waste my time looking at it.

luckystar March 25, 2016 at 9:08 am

Stop trying to make black happen it’s not going to happen.

luckystar March 25, 2016 at 9:11 am

@fuzzybear44

Mariah carey can also have a blonde child, because she is black as arabs are.

luckystar March 25, 2016 at 9:28 am

The funny thing is: Only Italians with arabs genes can have a little sub saharan in them
and in those minority, the arabs genes is always higher than sub saharan
and north italians have none of both lol
but you say that is something about 200 years ago
where is the sense? Semites were banned from sicilia long time years ago, thanks Clemente V
lol

fuzzybear44 March 26, 2016 at 1:34 am

@ luck

Quote:
(The funny thing is: Only Italians with arabs genes can have a little sub saharan in them)

Well bases on the chart that (Check7t) and you put up, that must be every Italian. Because both chart show Italians with SSA DNA.

Quote:
(but you say that is something about 200 years ago
where is the sense?)

You can’t understand English, or else you just can’t read. I said (YOUR) last black family member was probably 200 years ago or 9 generations. However looking at your 23&me chart, the people on that page ancestry seems to go back that far to.

Also black people never stayed out of Italy. African Americans have gone there since the 1800’s. Heck Leone Jacovacci who was half Italian was a middleweight boxer in the 20’s. Michele Amatore who was born Muslim (1826?-1883) was a well respected Italian citizen :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michele_Amatore

luckystar March 26, 2016 at 12:50 pm

@fuzzybear44

I dont care about italians having less than 3% of SSA DNA
the fact is, they are minority. Italians with SSA DNA also have north african in a highter percent than SSA, and most italians are like Ariana grande: Only Italian and North african(ARABS).
Blacks have never been an epidemic or virus in italy, and North Africans and Middle Easterners were kicked out from sicilia for thousands of years. Thank you thanks Clemente V, #Italiahistory.
Middle East Arabs had contacts with blacks, Asians… And some procreated with southern Italians, thousands of years ago.

luckystar March 26, 2016 at 1:16 pm

Middle Eastern people colonized northern Africa, and then north Africans invaded southern Europe.

luckystar March 26, 2016 at 1:17 pm

Sub saharan people doest even had great civilizations.

Greyface March 15, 2016 at 10:01 pm

this man follers is making me anxious! I am Italian and he scares me so

follers March 15, 2016 at 5:40 pm

Why is she still on every page? She’s Italian, we get it.

andrew March 15, 2016 at 6:13 pm
ethnic March 15, 2016 at 9:06 pm

Her ethnicity is certainly being searched a lot recently.

follers March 15, 2016 at 9:07 pm

It’s always the same seven searches with this feature.

ethnic March 16, 2016 at 5:28 am

Donald trump has moved up to 2nd place as of now. maybe a a reflection of his popularity in general.

follers March 16, 2016 at 11:44 am

I know, but it’s always Ariana Grande, Pharrell Williams, and Amber Rose. I really hate “most views today”.

follers March 14, 2016 at 9:19 am

I am tired of seeing her and Leonardo’s faces on the top right (and Amber Rose, who isn’t famous). Ariana and Leonardo would make a good couple, though.

ethnic March 16, 2016 at 7:35 pm

I think it is a great way of seeing who is being searched. Also the author and editor will be able to see if their work is being read. It will change dont worry.

follers March 16, 2016 at 9:03 pm

The author and editor? I wrote all those pages.

ethnic March 16, 2016 at 10:12 pm

The ‘most popular celebs’ list gives people who are submitting new celebs an idea of what kind of celebs are getting attention regarding their ethnicity. Certain celebs like Ariana or Amber Rose are going to get a lot of views because of their ethnically intriguing looks and they are going to attract more people to this site.

follers March 16, 2016 at 10:19 pm

Who is Amber Rose?

fuzzybear44 March 16, 2016 at 10:39 pm

I guess that depends on who you ask. To us black men, she was a very popular model/ video girl. She’s been in movies, and other things like that. She’s no different than Paris Hilton, Kim K, The Jersey Shore Cast etc. Also by her outward appearance, she sparks interest and Challenges people’s ideas about what mixed blood people can look like. I do understand that you’re sick of her, but Ethnic is right

Greyface March 16, 2016 at 11:26 pm

thata a lot of words, its easier to just say prostitute

ethnic March 18, 2016 at 7:19 am

Also she is fine which draws more hits to her page i guess. :)

fuzzybear44 March 16, 2016 at 11:38 pm

@Greyface

I guess it would be if I saw her that way, however I actually don’t. I do agree she’s not a very nice person, which I find surprising seeing that she is a Libra. However a prostitute, no

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