Rozonda Thomas

by ethnic on February 16, 2008

Chilli tlc

Birth Name: Rozonda Ocielian Thomas

Place of Birth: Atlanta, Georgia, U.S.

Date of Birth: February 27, 1971

Ethnicity: African-American, 1/16th Bengali Indian, 1/16th African-Caribbean, possibly Native American

Rozonda Thomas, also known as Chilli, is an American dancer, singer, songwriter, actress, and television personality. She is a member of the R&B/hip hop girl-group TLC, with Lisa Lopes and Tionne Watkins.

She is the daughter of Ava Thomas and Abdul Ali. Her great-grandfather’s brother was singer Bardu Ali. Rozonda has a son with her former partner, producer Dallas Austin.

She is African-American, and also has a Bengali Indian great-great-grandfather and an African-Caribbean great-great-grandmother.

Rozonda has been described as having Native American ancestry. It is not clear if this ancestry has been verified/documented.

Rozonda’s paternal grandfather was Arfien Joseph Ali (the son of Arfien/Arfin Ali and Lucille/Lucile Lyons). Rozonda’s grandfather Arfien was born in Louisiana. Rozonda’s great-grandfather Arfien was born in Mississippi, and was the son of Moksad Ali, who was born in Hooghly, West Bengal, India, and of Ella Blackman. Lucille was the daughter of William Lyons and Lottie Green.

Rozonda’s paternal grandmother was Margaret Augusta Lane (the daughter of Clifford Lane and Augusta). Margaret was born in New York. Augusta’s mother was from the Caribbean.

Sources: Rozonda Thomas meeting her father’s family – https://www.youtube.com

Rozonda’s paternal grandfather, Arfien Joseph Ali, on the 1940 U.S. Census – https://www.familysearch.org

Marriage record of Rozonda’s paternal great-grandparents, Arfien/Arfin Ali and Lucille/Lucile Lyons – https://www.familysearch.org

Rozonda’s paternal great-grandfather, Arfien/Arfin Ali, on the 1920 U.S. Census – https://www.familysearch.org

Rozonda’s paternal great-grandmother, Lucille/Lucile Lyons, on the 1910 U.S. Census – https://www.familysearch.org

Marriage record of Rozonda’s paternal great-great-grandparents, William Lyons and Lottie Green – https://www.familysearch.org

Rozonda’s paternal grandmother, Margaret Augusta Lane, on the 1930 U.S. Census – https://www.familysearch.org

photo by PR Photos

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bablah August 20, 2018 at 9:18 am

You can take out Middle Eastern. Her own father denied it.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/marniali/2013/08/06/its-a-family-affair

savanna January 1, 2016 at 10:32 am

She met her father and his family in 1996.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1oYQYBYj-E

madman July 5, 2018 at 4:10 am

In that video it’s mentioned that her father’s wife is named Connie. There is an obituary of a Byram Ali, who has a brother named Abdul E. Ali, whose wife is named Connie. Unfortunately I can’t access the text myself because of my country:
https://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/obituaries/ali-byram/article_b96a19ce-aea4-5415-95b8-66f4ae899ae8.html

Maybe someone could look into this? The couple lives in Mays Landing, New Jersey, and there seem to be a Marnet Ali (the name of Chilli’s half-sister) who has lived in that same area.

madman July 5, 2018 at 4:39 am

This obituary is also of the same family:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKWG-ZZ8G

If it’s correct, then Chilli’s paternal grandfather would be Arfien Joseph Ali. Her paternal grandmother would be Margaret Augusta Lane (the daughter of Clifford Lane and Augusta). Augusta’s mother was from the Caribbean.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7C2-J4Y

madman August 12, 2018 at 4:33 am

Bablah found the rest of her grandfather’s ancestry:

Her grandfather was Arfien Joseph Ali (the son of Arfien Ali and Lucille Lyons). Arfien was the son of Moksad Ali, who was born in Hooghly, West Bengal, India, and Ella Blackman. Lucille was the daughter of William Lyons and Lottie Green.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:KQT2-Z5V
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKJC-LPYR
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJPQ-B3D
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MPYV-LFN
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKJ4-Q4VH

Rozonda’s great-grandfather’s brother was singer Bardu Ali
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bardu_Ali

So her ancestry would be:
African-American, 1/16th Bengali Indian, 1/16th Afro-Caribbean

WestIndiangrl March 20, 2015 at 1:50 pm

WORD OF ADVICE FOR YOU BEFORE STATING SOMETHING MAKE SURE YOU ARE RIGHT FIRST BEFORE LOOKING DUMB !

WestIndiangrl March 20, 2015 at 1:50 pm

The dougla, specifically half-African and half-Indian descent, arose as a result of Colonial social conditions during the period of Indian indentureship Plantation Economy. There are sporadic records of Indo-Euro miscegenation, both forced and unforced, before any ethnic mixing of the African and Indian variety. Indian women were a minority among the earlier migrants. Many did not take the voyage across the Atlantic for several reasons, among them the fear of exploitation and the assumption that they were unfit for labor.[2] The first douglas were likely the result of interactions between Indian males and African women. However, the dougla was not particularly welcomed by the Indian community. Don’t act like you know more that Somebody when infact you know nothing at all ! Thank you -A CARIBBEAN DOUGLA !

WestIndiangrl March 20, 2015 at 1:48 pm

ME BEING DOUGLA MYSELF & FROM THE CARIBBEAN I AM TELLING YOU IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT ! -_- DOUGLA IS A MIXED BETWEEN BLACK & INDIAN FROM THE CARIBBEAN ! NOT INDIAN & CHINESE OR INDIAN & WHITE ! JUST BLACK AND INDIAN Here ! Since you think you know Dougla, a word used by people of the West Indies, especially in Guyana, Suriname, and Trinidad and Tobago. It is used to describe Caribbean people who are a product of African and East Indian descent. It is a non-hereditary means of naming people; that is, dougla progeny would usually be categorized as another race based on the progeny’s appearance, even in the case of dougla-dougla unions.

midori29 March 20, 2015 at 4:11 pm

@WestIndiangrl, I am Guyanese and yes dougl’as are recognized as half black and half Indians but unless they look Indian, they are treated as blacks.

midori29 March 20, 2015 at 4:15 pm

@WestIndiangrl, half my family is “dougla” but they look and consider themselves as blacks. And they are treated as blacks in the Carribean. I do know some douglas who pass as full blood Indians too. Everyone knows they are half Indian but the reality is that socially they end up choosing either black or Indian identification based upon physical appearances. If they look too black the Indians wont accept them as Indian and I they look too Indian the blacks wont accept them. So they chose as side either black or Indian.

shobohunter February 14, 2015 at 2:04 pm

1) I can bet a thousand dollar on the fact that any Muslim guy would keep “Abdul-Ali” as name. This is a heretical name among Muslims. The word “Abdul” should always end with any name of God (Allah) I.e. Abdul-Rashid, Abdul-Karim.
Name of persons such as Ali, Ahmad, Muhammad, Umar etc. can’t be added after “Abdul”.

This clearly shows that you have made up this name “Abdul-Ali” to claim Muslim ancestry which in turn to claim Middle-Eastern ancestry.

2) Indian populatipn which is settled in Guyana is mostly belongs to Dassyus (Slaves)/Shudras(Untoucheble)/Adivasi (Tribal) community who were forced to work for British colonies in Caribbean islands. These community have Australoids ancestry.
Surely, you can claim that because there is a sizable community of Tribals in East-India.

3) From which side are you a Native-American. If your father was a half-“Unspecified Middle-Eastern” and half-“Unspecified East-Indian” and your mother was African-American, then which side is Native-American.

4) There are mainly four types of people in East India -1) Dravidians 2) Aryans 3) Tibeto-Burmese 4) Adivasis (Australoids)

To which type did your father belonged to ? only he could tell only if he ever had existed.

5) There are several types of people in Middle-East. Some are Brown skinned, some of them are Blue-eyed Blondes, some people are Mongoloids and some people are Afro-Asiatics.

So all them aren’t blacks, that’s what you are thinking.

6) “Dougla/Dogla” is a derogatory word in Hindi which is more of an insult.

shobohunter November 27, 2014 at 1:05 pm

3) From which side are you a Native-American. If your father was a half-“Unspecified Middle-Eastern” and half-“Unspecified East-Indian” and your mother was African-American, then which side is Native-American.

4) There are mainly four types of people in East India -1) Dravidians 2) Aryans 3) Tibeto-Burmese 4) Adivasis (Australoids)

To which type did your father belonged to ? only he could tell only if he ever had existed.

5) There are several types of people in Middle-East. Some are Brown skinned, some of them are Blue-eyed Blondes, some people are Mongoloids and some people are Afro-Asiatics.

So all them aren’t blacks, that’s what you are thinking.

6) “Dougla/Dogla” is a derogatory word in Hindi which is more of an insult.

Caribbeangirl February 14, 2015 at 11:33 am

Dougla is a word use by west indians/Caribbean & to use dougla is derogatory Its a mix of black & indian ! Just like coloured in south africa is used to describe a person who is halfblack/white & isn’t derogatory

shobohunter February 14, 2015 at 1:58 pm

let me tell you
it has nothing to do with being or black and Indian.
It’s mostly refer to half Indian . It’s literal meaning is “double” not necessarily being mixed with someone like in this case black
In I Indian context “Dougla” (half this and half that) can be Indian belongings to two different religious background or cast or class.
And dougla can be half Chinese and Indian.

Is it derogatory for Indian who speaks the fucking language.
Say this word to an Indian and he’ll be laughing for your stupidity.
And India is multilingual and multiethnic country it has 1000 languages
Imagine saying that to an Tamil who don’t speaks hindi Pali. Also which part of India are you for or mixed with
It important to know
you can’t start claiming Kashmiri (and other i.e.Indo- Burmese laddkhi) people because they’re Indian annd your half indian (Dougla) You and they do not belongs to same genpool lol. Your ancestry is from specific (ethnical lingual) part of India.

Word of advice
Sis befor borrowing exotic word to sounds exotic learn a few thing.

eliasprovitt August 15, 2015 at 3:12 pm

Okay we know the word derives from “Doogala” which is derogatory. But in Trini Guyana Dougla means half black half Indian… It’s an island ting. I know most Indians hate the mix but there’s a lot of us with Indian blood. In Trini we don’t care about color lines that’s just wack.

Btw her father is West Indian we all don’t know where in India we’re from. Our ancestors were bunched together similar to Africans being brought to the new world. I have distant cousins in Punjab & Maharashtra so that says enough there…

Btw Chilli has a Trini cousin on Instagram so I’m guessing Mr Ali and her family are Douglas from Trini. Her father has black blood in him but he’s mixed

shobohunter November 27, 2014 at 12:39 pm

1) I can bet a thousand dollar on the fact that any Muslim guy would keep “Abdul-Ali” as name. This is a heretical name among Muslims. The word “Abdul” should always end with any name of God (Allah) I.e. Abdul-Rashid, Abdul-Karim.
Name of persons such as Ali, Ahmad, Muhammad, Umar etc. can’t be added after “Abdul”.

This clearly shows that you have made up this name “Abdul-Ali” to claim Muslim ancestry which in turn to claim Middle-Eastern ancestry.

2) Indian populatipn which is settled in Guyana is mostly belongs to Dassyus (Slaves)/Shudras(Untoucheble)/Adivasi (Tribal) community who were forced to work for British colonies in Caribbean islands. These community have Australoids ancestry.
Surely, you can claim that because there is a sizable community of Tribals in East-India.

amckenzie November 24, 2014 at 10:31 pm

Can y’all please specify more in depth on “Middle Eastern” and “East Indian?!” Don’t worry about “Native American” though…I’ll just let that one slide. Thank you! :)

shobohunter November 25, 2014 at 2:32 am

you can tell when they are lying..

Realness November 18, 2013 at 8:42 am

Rozonda Chilli Thomas is African American and East Indian she is a DOUGLA :) She never said she was Guyanese, she could very likely be Trini or even Grenadian. She just stated that she is Indo-Caribbean. She’s not Middle Eastern. Douglas, we are beautiful people :)

gtlady December 15, 2013 at 5:25 pm

I’m dougla too..and her father is indo-guyanese..look it up.

leslie2 October 25, 2013 at 4:48 am

Is there any proof she is even Native? it’s all just hearsay/false claim of being Native by another celebrity, if nothing points to her mother actually being Mixed. They should not list her as being Native or being mixed with Native through her mother (especially if it doesn’t list how much her % her mother is or if has any recent native ancestry to speak of) She is gorgeous, but if this turns out to be another lie its really disappointing to hear, as it is unnecessary to lie, to sound more “exotic” .

I would like some links to her tree which point to her being Native if possible, if you cannot find them, or find it listed, her mother probably isn’t mixed. Like someone else said, she apparently said before she was only African-American, and Middle-eastern& east-Indian.

follers October 25, 2013 at 1:26 pm

I changed the text a little.

leslie2 October 25, 2013 at 4:14 pm

Thank you follers. :)

shobohunter November 27, 2014 at 3:53 am

can you elaborate on more unexplicit claim such as middle eastern and east Indian ethnicity. people from middle east don’t called themself middle eastern rather Lebanese, Moroccan etc.. Is there any proof she is even middle eastern?
I am astonish that (retardant) people are questing her native ancestry but buying the claim of having middle east and east Indian ethnicity.

Amby January 21, 2014 at 10:51 pm

Mixed race people were not documented correctly at all. You had white people documented as Mullatto if a census taker didn’t feel they were white enough. It is impossible to try to count the number of multiracial people in the 1790 U.S. Census because of the racial categories used: white, slave, and “other.” The latter was used for “Free Coloreds,” or persons who were free but did not look white. Furthermore, Native Americans were intentionally excluded from the U.S. Census until 1890 (Jobe, 2004). Other types of government surveys were used to count them since tribes were usually accorded the status of quasi-sovereign nations. Census takers used their discretion to determine who fit in the category of “Free Colored,” so it is hard to identify the dividing lines between black, white, and “other.” A “Free Colored” could be a black person who was not a slave, a free person of mixed black and white ancestry, or a free person of another ethnic or racial origin whom the census taker did not feel was white. Sometimes these “others” included individuals of Portuguese, Turkish, or “Black Dutch” heritage. (Both Portuguese and Turkish people are considered “white” by modern U.S. Census standards.)

Why are you so concerned with her ancestry? Go learn yours.

shobohunter November 25, 2014 at 2:07 am

So Turkish aren’t white?
See that
http://i.tmgrup.com.tr/dailysabah/2014/05/05/HaberDetay/1399293547662.jpg

Dumbass don’t speak of other ethnicity that you no fucking knowledge of..

gtlady April 2, 2013 at 9:27 pm

she’s mixed with indian..her father is indo-guyanese from Guyana which is in south america, and is between venezuela and brazil. Guyana speaks english and is considered caribbean like trinidad and jamaica. So she’s half caribbean!

neves October 25, 2013 at 12:04 pm

this is the most retarded comment i’ve seen a while. i feel like everyone on this site is at least half retarded.

gtlady October 26, 2013 at 4:55 pm

And what’s so retarded about my comment? Please explain. I’m sorry if your brain is not large enough to understand simple geography and ethnicity.

Iveee__ September 7, 2012 at 10:48 pm

My grandmother looks exactly like chilli in her younger days

aja675 July 5, 2012 at 2:28 am

She looks Ethiopian or Somali.

blah December 21, 2012 at 4:10 pm

NO, SHE DOES NOT! She actually look like what she is which is black and Indian. Ethiopian and Somalians have certain characteristics they share like a specific kind of eyes, she doesn’t have that.

julieanna July 2, 2012 at 1:28 pm

Her dad is definitely middle eastern. I say this because I seen them together on a talk show. He’s definitely no Cherokee Indian, he is Middle Eastern Indian.

levangelista36 July 6, 2012 at 1:29 am

I believe it. Chilli looks as if she has a few Middle Eastern traits.

MochaLadyMJJ December 29, 2011 at 12:09 am

I have always thought that Chilli was sooo pretty. In subtle ways I used to think that she and I shared a few similar features, especially when I was younger. Her look is so timeless; she seems to never age in the face or body or hair at all! She is indeed a very pretty girl.

levangelista36 July 6, 2012 at 1:30 am

I agree, MochaLadyMJJ.

Tre December 28, 2011 at 10:15 pm

Chilli is not Muslim, she’s a Christian. Specifically a Seventh Day Adventist. That’s why she doesn’t eat pork. And obviously her father is not black, if you seen her show. And it does it really matter. All that truly matters is how good of person you are, not what color. We should stop letting the color of our skin divide us from other people and instead unite in this highly diverse world.

levangelista36 July 6, 2012 at 1:30 am

True words. I did not think she was Muslim.

candy November 12, 2011 at 9:37 am

his family is west indian muslims like the boyz from back in the day so is nicki manja is trini muslim thats why no pork

caribbeanBABY November 29, 2011 at 4:34 pm

amm….how do u no she is muslim?

levangelista36 July 6, 2012 at 1:31 am

He doesn’t, and she isn’t. There’s nothing wrong with being Muslim of course. But Chilli isn’t.

LamarteStaton October 17, 2011 at 4:10 pm

Why when someone’s not fully black they still call them black. That’s like saying I’m black and white but I’m basically white, I thought people who are black,and Native American were called Afro-Indian, or Black Indians.

ha October 22, 2011 at 11:41 pm

let people say whatever they want to say does it really matter? it should be whatever you identify with most or whatever you feel comfortable saying.

levangelista36 July 6, 2012 at 1:31 am

“let people say whatever they want to say does it really matter? it should be whatever you identify with most or whatever you feel comfortable saying.”

Thank you!

MochaLadyMJJ December 29, 2011 at 12:06 am

Honestly, when a person is of direct descent of more than one race, they should be able to call themselves whatever makes them feel comfortable while giving proper respect to the identities of both his/her parents, in the ideal situation. IMO, when a person is of direct descent of parents who are TWO COMPLETELY different races, that erson is considered “biracial” or “mixed” in regards to political and demographic terms. Some ppl regard ppl who are of equal Black-White descent as “Black” because of still embracing the “one drop rule” mentality: If you have a speck of Black blood in you, you’re considering Black, disregarding the face that this individual represents more than just the Black race. Although everyone has their parameters in regards to what constitutes as “Mixed” or “Black” or whatever, we must also remember to not get agitated. Everyone has their own notion of what constitutes as a certain racial identity. This entire website is filled with comments of ppl having discrepancies of what “Black” or “Afro-this” or “Afro-that” means. Native Americans, IMO, are the tribes that resided in America and Indians are from India. lol. I hate that we have that confusion. smh.

levangelista36 July 6, 2012 at 1:32 am

I hate when people refer to Native Americans as Indians. It really confuses me.

hyu jfnj ndudusudi October 16, 2011 at 11:08 am

this is some bull***** so do f**** wit me yu r SOME races ASS MOTHER FUCKERS

levangelista36 July 6, 2012 at 1:32 am
Crystal S. October 13, 2011 at 2:49 pm

Chili has long Indian hair, so therefore she is bout half Indian. Her father is East Indian with Middle Eastern blood, and her mother is African American with some Native American blood in her, but not half of it. I’m not sure if her dad is even black, but her mother is obviously a black woman.

ha October 22, 2011 at 11:39 pm

long hair doesn’t automatically make you indian

levangelista36 July 6, 2012 at 1:33 am

Just because you have long hair does not mean you are Indian.

:[

Ridiculous.

Someone August 25, 2011 at 5:17 pm

Her father is not half arab and Indian. He’s just Indian.
Wikipedia says he’s west Indian and her mother is Native American and African-American. I could swear though before it said she was African-American(Mother’) and East Indian muslim father. That’s it. Don’t know where Native American or Arab came from. Maybe because the father’s name is Abdul, but he’s muslim that’s why. Muslims don’t have to be middle eastern.

karmelleyez October 28, 2011 at 6:10 am

But that’s crazy because this is mad incorrect…her father & in his family are from New Jersey…I went to school with some of her half siblings and first cousins…The parents (including Chilli dad, who according to her family is mister Hassan…I went to school with Hassan, Jr. who was all to happy to find out Chilli was his sister) are actually Arabian and African American born in Atlantic City. & they are a Catholic family not Muslim…

karmelleyez October 28, 2011 at 6:11 am

* and his family

levangelista36 July 6, 2012 at 1:34 am

Thank you for the information.

ana August 2, 2011 at 9:55 am

@mimi arabs are of different shades , many arabs had african slaves and white slaves they had sex with the african and white female slaves and had lots of mixed kids with different color skin , i had seen black arabs , arabs with white skin , brown skin arabs .Mostafa hefny is a black arab from egypt he sue the us goverment because the goverment told him he was white and he is black , google mostafa hefny .By the way arabs are decendants of abraham and hagar , hagar was an african women and they had a child ishmael so the arabs were mixed with black before slavery.

lovely July 20, 2011 at 9:52 pm

I knew she was mixed but didn’t know with what!

ena July 7, 2011 at 8:12 pm

Some arabs look black , half black and some can pass for white like lebanese i think the lebanese are mixed with french .I do believe chili father is half arab and east indian

Fuzzybear July 8, 2011 at 4:07 am

TO Ena

A lot of Arabs are black(they just don’t promote those Arabs)

Jasmine June 3, 2011 at 1:27 pm

All this time I thought she was just African American she is representing the multiracial people good. Chili is a great performer/singer and a very cute girl.

sheryl May 22, 2011 at 9:33 pm

her father is east indian of the west indian when your west indian there is lot of diffrant indians and middle eastern mixture that went to the caribbean lot of american dont know if they have caribbean roots my cowork trace her roots on her fathers side to barbados he had white and indian she thought she was like navaho or something native american not south american meaning caribbean and she stop hatin now she has her bajan flag fying high.

brianna April 24, 2011 at 6:17 pm

I seen her dad on her show (which is great btw) and he just looks like a light skin black man to me…Weird…

Amandy! May 22, 2011 at 10:45 am

I didn’t think he looked black which suprised me. Though it could just be because of his older age, his eyes were light grey and he had a light tan complexion, plus her brother in my opinion didn’t look black either and they both had really strong features that resembled some people of hispanic descent, so I thought she was black/hispanic, but I guess not. Idk :)

Breara March 26, 2011 at 3:06 pm

HEY!!!!!!!!! CHILLI I JUST WANTED TO SAY HEY AND TELL U THAT I WAS A REALLY BIG FAN

KenEfresh February 15, 2011 at 4:18 pm

Chilli’s mother has wavy hair. Everybody thinks because her mother is darker than her father how she looks come only from her father. Darker skin people can have other admixers to. People get caught up in color so much that forget darker skinned black people different hair textures and features

Wtf March 26, 2011 at 4:33 pm

@kenE:that’s because they’re taught that black people only come one way,and anything other than that way is unacceptable

Misty April 25, 2011 at 7:31 am

Her father also had wavy/straight looking soft hair. So she probably got it from him too. So in this case your point is irrevlevant!

Kimmie January 23, 2011 at 10:30 pm

Chilli’s father is West Indian and West Indian culture has a mix of East Indians.

marta November 7, 2010 at 10:00 am

OMG, Fuzzy Bear, Total123, Buzzrock
You are so right. Arabs come in all colors from Omar Shariff to Bin
Laden to Anwar Sadat. Some ppl need to brush up on genetics
as well as history. It’s scary how ignorant some of these comments are. My husband is a Brown skin full-blood Pakastani. Most of the
East Indian race is a mixture of Arab, a small minority are of European mixture from the british colonial period. Most fair-skinned
Indians are in the North, most dark skinned Indians in the south.
Mimi stop embarrassing yourself, or better yet educate yourself.

Hapa Kamoa/Pukiki/Haoli October 28, 2010 at 12:24 pm

she was rumored to have samoan in her,but no she isn’t of samoan desent.

Tehinda October 27, 2010 at 8:14 pm

why is everyone so focused on discrediting this man as his race i mean seriously who cares i myself am arab and black my dad looks just like chilli’s dad and he is 100 percent my mother is black but like you say we all come in diffffffffferent colors just look at the black race ranging from hi light to very dark so just get over it that man is her dad all yall haters need to go and read a ethnicity book

fatima October 6, 2010 at 7:39 pm

My father is pakistani, and he looks a lot like chilli’s dad, except my father is darker.

Tribe September 19, 2010 at 6:08 am
moi August 4, 2010 at 2:40 pm

some ethiopian are light because they are mixed with middle easterns

so why cant some middle easterns look dark because the are mixed ethioian

OMG September 13, 2010 at 7:31 pm

true. there was a hige amount of slaves taken from africa and brought to the middleeast the same time as the slaves were being exported to america. plus the middle east/asia.africa.europe are all old world countries mixing has been going on since the beginning of time there, when race didn’t even exist and it was just a matter of what culture are you from. At some point we all came from the same place so there will be similarities.

fuzzybear September 13, 2010 at 7:44 pm

To OMG

The funny thing is,it was the Africans that started the middle Eastern people,the Asian etc

OMG September 13, 2010 at 8:12 pm

right!! well actually im not quite sure. I used to think the cradle of like was eastern africa since that’s where the oldest remains have been from and it makes since. I was watching something on the HIstory channel or whatever and now I believe the first beings proabably came from the region where ancient Sumeria was. Not sure. But to make all the various skin colors of the world Id think the first humans would have to be a more brownish/olive complexion. But i find the issue of race so annoying since it’s a relatively new concept. Im not saying people didn’t mistrust others based on skin tone 2000 years ago, but it was more becuase it marked you as being from outside their native culture/religion. Clearly people were traveling/ mixing since ancient times.

fuzzybear September 19, 2010 at 7:39 am

To OMG

I do agree about the brown skin,I stated that before myself.Also doctors do say that everyone is brown,even the ones that appear to be black.I guess it like with bears,from the source bear which is the brown bear.Now from that color,you get all others(polar to black bear),and I believe this the same for human.Although I do believe we started in Africa.They do the actual first wave that went out died off,and the second wave took another route

Mimi August 1, 2010 at 9:11 pm

Oh yea here are some pictures of East Indian men. Yea they sure look just like him lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiMBuNQnr2o

fuzzybear August 1, 2010 at 10:14 pm

To mimi

Again what about the black skin ones,you keep leaving those people out,as if the lighter ones are the only ones.I’m just saying be fair,there’s not a country on this planet that don’t have black people in it

total23 August 1, 2010 at 10:22 pm

Even The Greatest Archeologist In The World Can Admit They Are Wrong!

You Need To Read Upon Books About Genetics Because U Are Just Being Ignorant! Ur Not A Physic, Or A Person Who Just Know These Things!

fuzzybear August 1, 2010 at 11:30 pm

to total23

Were you talking to me,and What does this mean?I don’t get it

total23 August 2, 2010 at 7:25 am

No I Am Not! Why Would I Say Something Like That To You Fuzzy! And Plus I Did Not Reply…..U Would Know If I Was Replying To. Just Like U Know That I Am Replying To U Now! Lol! U Still Don’t Get It!

Fuzzybear August 2, 2010 at 7:43 am

Look respect your elders you little hoodlum,just kidding.ok misunderstanding check you later

Mimi August 1, 2010 at 12:22 pm

I saw her dad on the show .Clearly he is a light skinned african american. He is not east indian/arab. First most east indians and arabs do not mix with each other.Second they usually do not abandon there kids,third he doesnt even look arab. I am muslim and I grew up with arabs and I am married to one.That was not an arab man.Chili’s dad is probably a muslim convert that is why he changed his name to Ali. That may not even be her real dad.

total23 August 1, 2010 at 2:26 pm

It Says Middle Eastern Not Eat Indian!

And East Indians And Arabs Do Mix Just Like Any Other Ethnicity! Look How White And Black People Never Used To Like Each Other But They Still Mixed, Whether With Racism Or Not! And Plus Not Every Arabs Think The Same Way, And Not Every East Indians Think The Same Way. East Indians Want U To Marry Within Ur Own Race But Yet I Have Seen So Many Half Black Half East Indians, Etc… Just Because U R Married To An Arab And Grew Up With Arabs Don’t Mean NOTHING!

OMG September 13, 2010 at 7:35 pm

yeah…my aunt’s dad is literally from the middle east, he actually moved back there from the bay area. he was really racist i guess all people in the world have some sort of thing against black people, not quite sure why but i guess thats the legacy of european colonialism. anyways even though she’s 1/2 pakistani…besides her hair i’ve seen more mixed looking black people. however, that goes to show that you never know what your genes will pick out for a combination. so you cant say just because she doesn’t look like what oyu want her to look, or just because her father doesn’t look like you- doesn’t mean he’s not what you are. No one has the right to take away someone’s ethnicity.lol

fuzzybear September 13, 2010 at 7:55 pm

To OMG

It was taught that black skin was bad.See back in the day Pale(aka white) was thought to be a sin.Now since didn’t go well with the new people in charge,they flip the script.Now having black skin meant you were inferior,your ugly,that you were meant to serve.That when they invented the curse of Ham.Even Arabs thought this way

OMG September 13, 2010 at 8:06 pm

oh I completely understand, it’s still saddening to see particular races targeted even by people who have limited contact with them. In America Blacks are quite aware why they have inferiority complexes it’s the perks of enlightenment, but it’s saddening to see newer immigrant populations come over to bring more negative thoughts. The curse of Ham is not something just taught to Arabs it was the most poignant excuse White people used in America to keep slaves within their place….in order to commit such evil even to the point of twisting your religion you have to excuse your actions for enslavement and that was the route they chose. Interestingly enough, slaves considered themselves th eopposite and saw themselves sort of like the ensalved Hebrews in the Bible- but this is so off topic. I had to read and reread that same passage in the Bible to understand how it could be taken so out of context. I dare anyone to find 1 society in the world that does’t prize fair skin or where the people in power are not the lightest of the population.

total23 July 12, 2010 at 4:17 pm

Here Is A Video Where She Meets Her Father!

At 1:35

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx8C2OTPq-A&feature=related

ethnic July 13, 2010 at 11:03 am

great find Total23. He looks rather middle eastern.

total23 July 13, 2010 at 11:20 am

Thanks! I New About The Video For Over A Year Now, Because I Was A Huge TLC Fan If You Were Too Compare To Today….But I Was Just Lazy To Post It!

ethnic July 13, 2010 at 11:23 am

TLC were such a influential group. TLC rock!

total23 July 13, 2010 at 11:30 am

You Don’t Have To Tell Me Man….Lol I Love Them To Death….I Hope They Make A Comeback or a Comingthrough!

Ethnic, Wuts Your Ethnicity!?

Anonymous September 19, 2010 at 1:47 pm

This Chick is a Black women who happens to have a light skinned black father….why these people think anything light skinned with wavy hair cannot be of black decent is astonishing to me. Quite funny as we all know black come in all colors and variations…DUH

total23 September 19, 2010 at 2:53 pm

Chilli’s Father Is Not Black!

Anonymous September 19, 2010 at 3:16 pm

like i said earlier…black! even if her dad isnt she is a part of black culture and will undoubtedly tell u this HERSELF as she has in Many interviews over the years of her career. So it really doesnt matter if her dad is black or not…SHE IS

Anonymous September 19, 2010 at 3:21 pm

I agree chilli is a black girl with a light skinned dad. He looks like my uncle lol

whteva September 19, 2010 at 3:25 pm

that video on youtube proves that dude is black, no question about that @ total23 u must be blind or something.

fuzzybear September 19, 2010 at 5:50 pm

To total

What do you think her father is?Also don’t say he’s middle eastern or from india,because that means very little

total23 May 3, 2010 at 1:28 am

Chilli Is Beautiful To Me.

And To MiMi, She Is Not Confused She Barely Knew Her Father And If She Said At One Point That She Was Rican Then She Probably Heard It From A Maternal Relative Of Hers And Assume! And Just Becuase Her Father Doesn’t Look Like Arab Doesn’t Mean That He Is Not. You Need To Do Your Research On Ethnicity Before Saying Things Like That!

Mimi August 1, 2010 at 12:29 pm

Sorry but I am muslim and I am married to a palestinian from Ramallah. I know arabs.That is not an arab/east indian…

total23 August 1, 2010 at 2:04 pm

Every Single Ethnicity Come In Different Shades And Different Looks Due To Admixture. And It Does Not Say East Indian, It Says Middle Eastern.

total23 August 1, 2010 at 2:35 pm

Oh Sorry, I Meant To Say It Doesnot Say Arabs It Say Middle Eastern!

tyra February 6, 2011 at 7:45 pm

true! Middle eastern does not equal arab. Not everyone middle eastern is arabian people. Middle Easterners include Arabs, Turks, Kurds, and Iranian. All those elasticities and MORE are in the middle east. Come on its simple. Syrians/Lebanese/ Palestinians alone are barely even arabs in the true sense, those nations almost ALL its people are mixed roman, french, turkish, arab, and seriously, most lebanese do not even consider themselves arab, they say they are “Phoenician”.

TL;DR

Middle Eastern does not mean you are an arab.

BTW arabs are people just like anyone else, keep that in mind okay? that means they have different personalities, shades of skin, and features : ).

My step father is egytpian (arab) and he is high yellow, where as my bf is lebanese and he has whitish skin (though the other features make it obvious that he is arab).
And its true many arabs are self-important or racist, but um, THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS, DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES. SOME ARE LIKE THAT, SOME ARE NOT.

p.s. Im black to, white a white-skinned arab future husband, does that tell you anything?

just like white people, not all arabs are racist.

mimi April 9, 2010 at 3:08 pm

Chili is mad confused.When she first came out she said she was half RIcan.Now all of sudden she is Arab and East Indian. First Arabs and Indians barely even mix. Most Indian people stick with there own kind.Next I see Sally and her dad was not an Arab.He was a lightskinned black man.Maybe half white but for sure not arab.I grew up with ARABS and I am married to one so I know how they look. Her dad looked like Sinbad or Renardo Rey from comic view.Obviously she does have something in her due to that hair ,but it for sure is not east indian/arab.

Buzzcock May 29, 2010 at 3:23 pm

Ha Ha your comments are hilarious; “I grew up with arabs and I am married to one so I know how they look”.

ARAB IS NOT A RACE ANDTHEY COME IN ALL SHADES AND HAIR TEXTURE ARABS CAN LOOK LIKE P DIDDY TO LOOKING LIKE OMAR SHARIFF.

I doubt you grew up with arabs and its very unlikely you are married to one otherwise you would n’t have made such a ludicrious statement.

Anonymous June 18, 2010 at 1:11 pm

LOVE YA POST NO ONE RACE LOOKS A CERTAIN RACE . I HATE WHEN PPL MAKE IGNORANT COMMENTS LIKE THAT !

Anonymous June 18, 2010 at 1:11 pm

I MEANT CERTAIN WAY !

Mimi August 1, 2010 at 12:31 pm

Yes I did grow up with arabs. My husband is from palestine also. Her dad is probably a muslim convert. Most middle eastern men do not impregnate women and abandon there kids. In fact in there culture the man gets the kids. Chili is full of shit.

total23 August 1, 2010 at 2:33 pm

Chilli Is Not Full Of Shit! Y Wood U Say That, That’s An Info That Her Father Gave Her….If Her Father Is Middle Eastern And East Indian Descent Then So Be It….

And I Like How U Said That “Most Middle Eastern Men Do Not Impregnate Women And Abandon There Kids”. Which Clearly Means There Are Middle Eastern Who Would.

And Plus Her Father Could Be Like A Second Generation American Or W/E So He Would Have A Different Personality That Of A Middle Eastern And An East Indian!

Mimi August 1, 2010 at 9:07 pm

That man probably is not even her dad. Chili to me looks like she is probably a quarter Asian. Her dad does not even look like an Arab/Indian. Next clue they said he was in the military what Arab man is going to join and fight in the US military. Answer is none. He is probably half white and half black and probably Muslim that is why his name is Abdul Ali. I am black and I have an arabic first and last name,but not one trace of Arab in me. By the way here are some pictures of Arabic men. He does not look like NONE Of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_W-WywcmGc&feature=related

DA July 24, 2011 at 3:08 pm

Men from the middle east in New York that own bodega’s, always seem to impregnate black/brown girls and leave them. My friend was 14 and got pregnant by a 35 year old Middle Eastern Muslim store owner. The Caribbean is filled with abandoned children from men from Lebanon (also store owners) that they call “Syrians”. Most of the businesses in Caribbean are owned by “Syrians and the Chinese.

rafael July 24, 2011 at 4:34 pm

not in puerto rico

EIBLEANN March 8, 2010 at 5:17 pm

I SAW HER AND HER FATHER ON THE SALLY JESSE RAPHAEL SHOW. SHE HAD ONLY MET HER FATHER A COUPLE TIMES IN HER CHILDHOOD AND LOST CONTACT WITH HIM SO SHE WENT ON THE SHOW. HER FATHER IS MIDDLE EASTERN AND INDIAN AND HER MOTHER I GUESS ARE THE OTHER AFRICAN AMERICAN AND NATIVE AMERICAN

ethnic January 10, 2010 at 1:07 pm

hi BBG. that would be good if you can confirm that.

thanks in advance

BBG January 10, 2010 at 8:52 am

Yeah, she was on Sally a few years back and that’s where i thought they said she was creole. I’m gonna look it up.

Lala January 2, 2010 at 2:41 pm

She’s NOT pretty to me…at all.

Lala January 2, 2010 at 2:40 pm

She’s really East Indian and Black, I heard.

lis October 31, 2009 at 5:07 am

i believe she’s half native americna but middle eastern? did he father become muslim and change his name or something because she barely knew hew farther and went on the sally jessie show a few years ago to look for her him. middle eastern men don’t abandon their children typically.

ethnic October 28, 2009 at 3:43 pm

I think her eyes make her look East Indian.

Kala October 28, 2009 at 2:21 pm

she does look more east indian than black with her natural hair color.

BBG October 20, 2009 at 2:21 pm

I could’ve sworn I read somewhere she was Creole. Hmmm…

half east indian, half black...from trinidad October 14, 2009 at 9:33 pm

yup i hate wen ppl say my hair isnt real either even wen i stop straightenin it and its now curly…they see that im dark skinned and think ohhh well shez black with a weave…never wore one, never will

ethnic September 9, 2009 at 10:33 am

She is very beautiful. They (TLC) all are.

Chloe September 9, 2009 at 4:22 am

that’s a rare and beautiful mix.

preciouxx_bby August 3, 2009 at 3:25 am

she od pretti i thought she wuz juss black she looks native american ndd lov hur her

ethnic August 3, 2009 at 9:21 am

I always thought she looked more Est Indian than Black.

Kala July 7, 2009 at 5:57 am

Chilli is soo pretty with hair to die for you should look at some other pics of her i hate when people try to say her hair is fake when she is obviously mixed! DUH look at her she’s mixed with the middle eastern and indian desent you can see it! i love her she’s gorgeous

Yolanda June 18, 2009 at 9:21 pm

I second that even though there are a lot of mixed blacks who don’t always inherit the non African traite.

Ian Cole May 13, 2009 at 5:13 am

Now you are talking This woman can claim native american/Indian as its clearly visable.

lex May 4, 2009 at 3:24 am

what a pretty black girl

ethnic January 28, 2009 at 3:44 pm

I can see the Indian/middle eastern in her though.

Bri January 28, 2009 at 11:45 am

she’s beautyful! nice mix.i knew she was black for sure,nd mixed but not like dat.

TGIM December 1, 2008 at 4:39 pm

Wow. She is barely black????

fuzzybear August 1, 2010 at 10:10 pm

To Mimi

I’m sorry to get in this,but you only are showing one kind of Arab men,they come in different colors to.Black skin Arab men are in every country over there,so he doesn’t have to look like the guys in the video

total23 August 1, 2010 at 10:19 pm

And That Is Her Real Father, The Sally Raquel Show W/E Did A DNA Test!

And The Brown Skin Could Be From His East Indian Ancestors!

OMG September 13, 2010 at 7:42 pm

lmao. until i meet 1 person who has been to all middle eastern countries and has met PERSOnally every person in all the countries than i dont want to hear anymore about this im married to a…im from blach blach blah. Trust me, chili didnt know her father she probaably picked Rican because it’s one of the more well known ethnic groups in america and she couldnt figure out what she looked like. she is what she is so dont act high and mighty. and she doesnt look asian..tiger woods, kimora lee, amerie the singers look clearly mixed with asian. And theres a hell of a lot of africans especailyl easterna dn southern africans dark as can be with the most Asiatic eyes. we’re all one race dont forget that.

fuzzybear August 1, 2010 at 11:27 pm

To total23

Arabs are brown and black in color,they just like to promote the light skin ones,as if black skin people there don’t exist.From what I read,and the ones I’ve talk to,arabs have gotten pretty racist,they seem to believe black skin people are below them and are there to serve them;except the women who they like to make babies with

ethnic July 13, 2010 at 11:35 am

Japanese. I forgot yours?

total23 July 13, 2010 at 11:53 am

African Canadian!

ethnic July 13, 2010 at 6:42 pm
mids March 23, 2011 at 1:56 pm

chili doesnt look black. she looks more east indian. Look at her fuckin natural hair texture. Not charadteristic of black people now is it?

Wtf March 23, 2011 at 4:14 pm

@mid:it depends on what black people your talking about.black people aren’t all the same,plus all the black people over there descend from from the very black people your trying to insult

Wtf March 23, 2011 at 4:21 pm

Another thing ,WTF is a black person suspposed to look like,I’m sick of people telling us what we’re suspposed to look like

Misty April 25, 2011 at 7:40 am

Actually she looks mixed with Native American moreso than East Indian they have they deep mocca brown skin. She looks like she is part blackfoot indian. However, she isn’t. I guess the lesson is it’s not about what she looks like it’s what she says she is. Her father may look like a light skin black man but if he says he isn’t he’s not. Wouldn’t that be retarded for a grown man to lie about his ethnicity. I doubt he would get on national t.v. and do that. Seems bizzare. The man is probably what he says he is.

total23 March 24, 2011 at 10:53 am

I Am Not Blind Number 1, And The Picture Is Not All That Clear Number 2! And Number 3, Chilli Said So Herself That After Meeting Her Father That He Was Middle Eastern And East Indian Descent!

total23 March 24, 2011 at 10:55 am

I Think Her Father Is Whateever Her Father Is! Middle Eastern And East Indian Descent!

Wtf March 24, 2011 at 2:41 pm

@total:but that doesn’t mean anything,it doesn’t stop him from being a black man.That’s just like me being Latino, but that doesn’t stop me from being a black guy

Fuzzybear March 25, 2011 at 4:33 am

To Total23

Oh trying to get smart mouth with huh!Don’t have me come to Canada. That’s just like me saying American,which means I could be anything.Both Middle Eastern And East Indian have a whole lot of black people in it

total23 March 25, 2011 at 9:27 am

Ok Yes I Am Aware Of That! But They Would Have Said He Was Black! You Think Chilli Wouldn’t Mention That He Was Black! Plus I Am Not Talking About Him Being Black No More, I Am Talking About How He Identifys Which Is By His Culture And Religion! Who Cares If Someone Is Black, White, Or East Asian etc. Culture And Religion Plays A Good Part In Life….Just Like You Fuzzy, When You Tell Dominicans That Look Black That They Are Black, But Then They Respond And Tell You That They Are Not Black, But Latino! Doesn’t That Prove That Culture Is More Of An Influence On A Person Rather Than Race? Which Is Why I Say He Is Middle Eastern And East Indian Descent!

Fuzzybear March 26, 2011 at 4:41 am

To total 23

Well now see you should have said that’s the way you were looking at it.Actually it kinda funny,that’s how the north African arabs saw themselves as being different.Even if in many cases they were darker than the other Africans

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