Marisa Ramirez

by ethnic on August 9, 2010

BEL AIR, CA - NOVEMBER 18: Marisa Ramirez at the 5th Annual "Lit

Birth Name: Marisa Maguire Ramirez

Place of Birth: Los Angeles, California, United States

Date of Birth: September 15, 1977

Ethnicity: Mexican (five eighths), along with Scottish, Scots-Irish/Northern Irish, German, possibly English, Irish, French, and Native American

Marisa Ramirez is an American actress. She is the daughter of Francine Elaine (Maguire) and Raymond Trinidad Ramirez. Marisa has a daughter.

Her father is of Mexican descent. One of her maternal great-grandfathers was also of Mexican origin; her mother’s other ancestry is Scottish, Scots-Irish/Northern Irish, German, and possibly or likely English, Irish, and French. Marisa has also mentioned having Native American ancestry. It is not clear if this Native American ancestry has been verified/documented, although Marisa may certainly have Indigenous American roots through her Mexican lineage.

Marisa has said:

I am Mexican, American Indian, and Irish. I was born and raised in East LA… I think there could be some improvements [in roles offered to Latina actresses]. A lot of roles are still the typical Latina with an accent who has three kids at home. I’m a woman of color. You don’t need to know what color it is or pigeonhole it. We need more Latinas being portrayed as leading women, not just Jennifer Lopez. I can be Mrs. Smith, not just Mrs. Ramirez. I want to be able to audition for everything.

Marisa’s maternal grandfather was Harold Hugh Maguire (the son of Clyde Jefferson Maguire/McGuire and Mary Emma Cruse). Clyde was the son of William A. McGuire and Rena G. Gollaher. Rena’s mother, Eliza Jane Dunlap, may have been a Cherokee Native American; though census records list her as “white”. Marisa’s great-grandmother Mary Emma was the daughter of Alexander C. Cruse and Lucy Crawford.

Marisa’s maternal grandmother was Stella Raleigh Mellado (the daughter of Peter Mellado and Hortense Raleigh). Peter was born in Texas, to a Texas-born father and a New Mexico-born mother, and was likely of Mexican descent. Hortense was born in California, to a father from New England (New York or Delaware) and a California-born mother.

Sources: Marriage record of Marisa’s maternal grandparents, Harold Hugh Maguire and Stella Raleigh Mellado – https://familysearch.org

Genealogies of Marisa’s maternal great-grandfather, Clyde Jefferson Maguire/McGuire – http://www.genealogy.com
http://www.ancestry.ca

Genealogy of Marisa’s maternal great-great-grandmother, Rena G. Gollaher – http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com

Information about Marisa’s maternal great-great-great-grandmother, Eliza Jane Dunlap – http://boards.rootsweb.com
https://www.findagrave.com

Genealogies of Marisa’s maternal great-grandmother, Mary Emma Cruse – https://www.geni.com
http://www.werelate.org
http://www.ancestry.co.uk

Genealogy of Marisa’s maternal great-great-grandmother, Lucy Crawford – http://www.genealogy.com

Marisa’s maternal grandmother, Stella Raleigh Mellado, on the 1930 U.S. Census – https://familysearch.org
Stella Raleigh Mellado on the 1940 U.S. Census – https://familysearch.org

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madman March 14, 2017 at 12:49 am

Do we know that Marisa’s father was only of Mexican descent? Her quote doesn’t indicate that.

follers March 14, 2017 at 3:49 am

Eh, I’ll assume it. Especially with his middle name.

alberto.r7 September 18, 2017 at 6:27 am

Anyway, mexican is not an ethniticity. Mexicans are mostly of mixed blood (Spanish with Native American), although there are white mexicans (only Spanish or another european blood).

fuzzybear44 March 13, 2017 at 11:42 pm

It says in the bio she may have Native through her Mexican roots. Well the same can be said for her to have African through her Mexican heritage, seeing how the avg Mexican has it. Cherokee , everyone and their grandma says their Cherokee . It’s said that in the 1900’s, there were only 47,000 Cherokee left. Of that only 2000 were pure-blood, the rest were mixed and about 7000 blacks and Whites were adopted into the tribe

fuzzybear44 March 13, 2017 at 11:58 pm

Why isn’t the Africa left as a possibility then? The avg Mexican has it, even if they do not want to claim it, or may not know about it. Eliza Jane Dunlap is listed as white, so The Native ancestry hasn’t been verified , yet it’s left up there. Come on now, be fair

follers March 14, 2017 at 12:00 am

Ramirez mentioned Native American ancestry, and a specific ancestor was said to be Native American, so I left it up there.

As far as I know, Ramirez has never mentioned black ancestry, and there isn’t a specific ancestor who is known to have been said to be black.

fuzzybear44 March 14, 2017 at 12:31 am

But isn’t that ancestor listed as white? Also all Mexican mention Native ancestry, because that’s what they are taught(Spanish /Native), and that’s all they are taught . As far as the African goes , most Mexicans don’t know they have that Ancestry, because they are not taught that. Also any black ancestor would have had a latin name, since for a long time, even the black ones called themselves simply Mestizo .Have you ever looked at Mexican Dna results, and the surprise on their faces when they find out? However no problem.

madman March 14, 2017 at 12:43 am

Are you in favour of adding “possibly European” to every African-American on this site then?

The reason why African isn’t mentioned is because she hasn’t claimed to have African ancestry, and there is no other evidence of it.

fuzzybear44 March 14, 2017 at 2:56 pm

@madman

Quote(Are you in favour of adding “possibly European” to every African-American on this site then?)

It wouldn’t bother me at all, especially since it’s usually true. African American is just our cultural Identity. Everyone knows the avg AA is of mixed blood, European being the other main contributor . So I would have no objection to it.

Quote(The reason why African isn’t mentioned is because she hasn’t claimed to have African ancestry, and there is no other evidence of it.)

What Mexicans you know do? I live around plenty of Mexicans, who didn’t even know black people were ever in Mexico, yet alone mixed with them. Carlos Santana, Oscar De La Hoya, as well as countless others didn’t even know of their African Ancestry, nor do they mention it. While others get offended by the mere suggestion. Mexican descendants of the Los Pobladores that were in charge of the committee for promoting the L.A subway, were outrage and walked off the committee when the people wanted to mention their African bloodline. That’s how real it is with these people.

However as you said, there is no other evidence, other than my “usually correct” suspicions, so I will drop it

madman March 14, 2017 at 3:39 pm

I think a good rule of thumb is to add the ancestries that are confirmed or likely (for another reason than probability).

I only know one Mexican, although that’s irrelevant, as is the fact that many Mexicans are unaware of their African ancestry. I have ancestors from Northern Sweden, but I’m unaware of any potential Sami ancestors (additionally, it wouldn’t bother me if I found any).

I do agree with you that, as someone of Mexican descent, she probably has African ancestry. But I wouldn’t say it is “unfair” to not include it. If we’re gonna go by probability, there’s many other ethnicities we could add to other celebrities on this site.

madman March 13, 2017 at 11:31 am

Her middle name is “Maguire”.

She is the daughter of Francine Elaine (Maguire) and Raymond Trinidad Ramirez.

Marisa’s maternal grandfather was Harold Hugh Maguire (the son of Clyde Jefferson Maguire/McGuire and Mary Emma Cruse). Clyde was the son of William A. McGuire and Rena G. Gollaher. Mary was the daughter of Alexander C. Cruse and Lucy Crawford.

Marisa’s maternal grandmother was Stella Raleigh Mellado (the daughter of Peter Mellado and Hortense Raleigh).

According to her descendant, Rena Gollaher’s mother, Eliza Jane Dunlap, was a Cherokee Native American.
http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.carroll/145.1.1/mb.ashx

I haven’t been able to found any additional information of her, however. Censuses lists her as white, and this overview of her life (which is derived from an old news article) makes no mention of it:
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=37627093

Marriage record of maternal grandparents – https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K8KD-SP8

Genealogies of:
Clyde Jefferson Maguire/McGuire – http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/j/o/h/Virginia-Mae-Johnson-Oregon/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0604.html
http://www.ancestry.ca/genealogy/records/clyde-j-mcguire_133821001

Mary Emma Cruse – https://www.geni.com/people/Mary-Maguire/6000000028766856585
http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Mary_Cruse_%282%29
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/genealogy/records/mary-emma-cruse_11589782

Rena G. Gollaher – http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=willyeye&id=I29737

Lucy Crawford – http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/l/e/a/Floretta-L-Leatherman/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0637.html

madman March 13, 2017 at 11:42 am

Assuming Eliza wasn’t Native American, Marisa’s maternal grandfather was of Scottish, Scots-Irish/Northern Irish, German, and possiby English, ancestry.

This is her grandmother Stella on censuses:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XC8F-J8Q
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K9C9-FW7

Peter Mellado was born in Texas, to a Texas-born father and a New Mexico-born mother. Given his surname and birthplace, he was likely of Mexican descent. Additionally, if this is his death record, his mother’s surname was “Ribera”:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VP4V-C36

Hortense was born in California, to a father from New England (New York or Delaware) and a California-born mother. I suspect this is her on the 1920 census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MHQF-67D

If it is, she is the daughter of Josephine Penberthy, who was born in California, to a French father and a Massachusetts-born mother. The surname “Riley” or “Raleigh” suggest Irish ancestry as well.

So Marisa’s maternal grandmother was of Mexican, Irish, French, and possibly other, ancestry.

bablah March 12, 2017 at 2:55 pm

Since there’s no real proof of Marisa’s African ancestry, maybe it should just say Mexican.

fuzzybear44 March 13, 2017 at 12:42 am

Ok , but that still doesn’t solve anything. Saying she’s Mexican, is like me saying I’m American. Mexico has had a variety of different European, African, Native American, Middle Eastern , pacific islander and Asian running up in there. She could be all those ethnicities and not know it.

bablah March 13, 2017 at 1:50 am

But it’s not our place to assume. There are Mexicans on this site with verified ancestry, she’s just not one of them.

fuzzybear44 March 13, 2017 at 8:00 am

lol, that’s what 90% of the people on the site do, make assumptions, However point taken. Has her other Ethnicities been verified? She says her mother is native American, any proof?

bablah March 13, 2017 at 10:31 am

>that’s what 90% of the people on the site do, make assumptions

Well, as much as I’m annoyed by neiltennant’s ”everybody’s polish, germans don’t exist” comments, his ”observations” don’t get included in the profile, so I don’t really care that much.

>Has her other Ethnicities been verified? She says her mother is native American, any proof?

Not yet, but at least she claims that one, and for now, we only have her word to go by (not that I trust these celebs much). I only know her mother’s last name is Maguire.

mdflo73 June 8, 2013 at 7:09 pm

Why are you calling several Mexican American actors Afro-Mexican. There were only about 400,000 slaves that were taken to the Yucatan between the borderof Mexico and Costa Rica. Puerto Rico and Cuba have a huge African influence, your not calling JLO African Puerto Rican.

fuzzybear44 June 9, 2013 at 1:23 am

@mdflo73

(Why are you calling several Mexican American actors Afro-Mexican)

What are the names of these other actors/actresses that you are referring to?

Also I believe there were more than 400,000 brought there,however this is not the point.The point is,they weren’t all brought there at the same time,they came in over multiple generations.Plus you had black people coming in from the south,and the other islands to the west.Then you had the black people coming in from the North.The only reason Mexicans are like they are,is because of Europeans flooding(they were invited ) into the country.This was done on purpose to whiten the people.

mdflo73 August 11, 2013 at 6:19 pm

Thanks for the history lesson that made no sense. Barking up the wrong tree when it comes to history, especially the history of Mexico. But once again my question was not answered as usual on these websites.

fuzzybear44 August 12, 2013 at 4:20 am

@mdflo73

Well first,you never gave names of the other celebs you were speaking of.Next your question made no sense.I mean look who’s talking about barking up the wrong tree.This is a ethnic blog site,no one here,made that name up for them.The people on this site simply study a particular celebrity,and then report back what they find,and if that celeb is called(whatever they are called),that’s what the people here write down.If you truly want to know why those mexicans are called that,maybe you should go asked the mexican government.Maybe you can speak to a few of those mexicans in question,and found out what they want to be called,then come and tell us.BTW my information on mexico is correct,if you or whomever else can’t deal with it,that’s not my problem

fuzzybear44 August 12, 2013 at 4:25 am

correction:you never gave the names of the other celebs you were speaking of

--0 November 28, 2011 at 9:54 am

Why Afro-Latina, just call it Afro-Mexican -.-

mdflo73 August 11, 2013 at 6:20 pm

How about just Mexican

kathleen April 6, 2011 at 5:18 pm

i always get her mixed up with sara ramirez lol tehey both have mexican and irish in them

daylaborer89 April 5, 2011 at 11:56 pm

she looks more white than native american, id still hit that though….

Fuzzybear April 6, 2011 at 3:56 am

To daylaborer89

She looks white to you?

alberto.r7 September 18, 2017 at 6:24 am

Obviously she looks mostly white because she is mostly white.
She is 5/8 Mexican(that is not a race) and by her features i would say that in her Mexican part she has spanish or other european ancestries(like 1/2 or even 3/4). So she is fundamentally white (65% or more).

Chris February 28, 2011 at 2:37 pm

She said she is of Mexican, Irish and Native American and one could tell. Sorry, she doesnt’ have any black or afro roots, look it up in wikipedia too.

Wtf February 28, 2011 at 5:32 pm

@Chris;are you really that thick.

411 February 28, 2011 at 7:40 pm

@chris

everyone and their grandma,can see this woman is afro-latina.afro-latino is a label that been put on them,but they just say they’re mexicans,which they are

fuzzybear March 1, 2011 at 3:50 am

To chris

Even this site here says she Afro-latino:
http://www.latina.com/entertainment/tv/introducing-marisa-ramirez

She may chose to be like others,who say their just Italian(with some other things),you know who I speak of.Also she may not want to be place in a box of certain roles.However she is forever playing either black, mexican or mixed roles.Which to me, she being a hypocrite.She’ll take the roles,but doesn’t want to be Id as part black;she must really hate her biological father

mysisi November 3, 2013 at 10:32 am

Why do you feel the need to judge people who choose
to identify themselves in a certain manner? You state
she hates her father. How do YOU know this? Do YOU
have access to her thoughts and feelings? Has she stated this publicly or discussed this with you personally? Even if she is a hypocrite, how does this affect You? In what way does her self-identification have an impact on your life? Does it take food off your table or money out of your pocket? If someone is 90%
White & identifies as Black, or is 90% Black & identifies
as White, or looks “purple” but calls himself “green”, who are you to criticize. Last I heard none of this is a
crime. Jessica Alba once said in an article that she
considered herself “American”. The criticism was so
intense & vile, one would think she said she murdered
her own child. Some people on this website, you included, need to get a life. Stop passing judgement
& criticism about how some people choose to ID them- selves. Just because you don’t agree with it, does not make it wrong. To paraphrase the old adage: “People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones”.

fuzzybear44 November 4, 2013 at 3:21 am

@mysisi

(Why do you feel the need to judge people who choose
to identify themselves in a certain manner?)

Why do you feel the need to judge me,for what I said about her?

(You state
she hates her father. How do YOU know this? Do YOU
have access to her thoughts and feelings? Has she stated this publicly or discussed this with you personally?)

Reread the statement,that’s me giving my opinion,didn’t say it was a fact.

(Even if she is a hypocrite, how does this affect You? In what way does her self-identification have an impact on your life? Does it take food off your table or money out of your pocket? If someone is 90%
White & identifies as Black, or is 90% Black & identifies
as White, or looks “purple” but calls himself “green”, who are you to criticize. Last I heard none of this is a
crime. Jessica Alba once said in an article that she
considered herself “American”. The criticism was so
intense & vile, one would think she said she murdered
her own child. Some people on this website, you included, need to get a life. Stop passing judgement
& criticism about how some people choose to ID them- selves. Just because you don’t agree with it, does not make it wrong. To paraphrase the old adage: “People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones”.)

You are no different than anyone else on this site.Here you are criticizing and crying,about a comment I made 2 years ago.How does what I said about her impact you?Does it take food off your table or money out of your pocket?Now just like you,I gave my personal opinion,and neither the law nor the site administrator saw it as a crime.Now you might want to take your own advice,and get a life.Stop passing judgement,and tend to your glass house.

Sherley November 18, 2010 at 11:45 pm

lol @ afro mexican, no Mexicans go around breaking down our heritage because we would have to trace back over 500 years to do that! We are majority people of mixed race, the black slaves didnt just land in Mexico yesterday, we’re talking a mixture of Afro-Euro-native that dates back hundreds of years . Too mixed to be labeled as “:AFRO:
If she was Cuban or Puerto Rican I would understand since many of them have closer afro roots.

JUST SAYIN.

black wallstreet aka Fuzzybear November 19, 2010 at 2:21 am

To Sherley

I agree with you,she’s shouldn’t have to call herself anything other than Mexican.However I’m not the one who made the label up,that was done a long time ago.Then again I get people on here that say,there were never any black people in Mexico.Then there are those who say ok,they were there but only a few of them.Then there are those who say ok they were,but stay in the South like good little puppies.Then they treat the black mexicans like crap,and do Then they make up stupid stuff like this:
http://j-walkblog.com/images/meminstamp.jpg
But then you say this(If she was Cuban or Puerto Rican I would understand since many of them have closer afro roots.)That like saying that those Mexicans in the South and in the North don’t have strong ties to their African Heritage,which by the way helped to shape the entire culture there.Which from I can see is the farthest thing from the truth
The Memin Pinguin Stamp

ggg February 27, 2012 at 11:26 am

memim pinguin is awesomes im from mexcio city and our ties are mostly with the aztecs why i should say that im part african part this and part this if my family have been living here from centuries so im nothing more but mexican with no ties to spain or africa

total23 August 9, 2010 at 7:30 am

Can’t Find Where It Say’s She’s Afro – Latina!

Fuzzybear August 9, 2010 at 9:22 am

To total23 it’s more fan base site that say it,but since their not legal source I didn’t put them down.They just say Mexican,however most mexicans who are Afro-Mexican like her just call themselves Mexicans.I do know she play an African-American on t.v,so the odds of it being in her back ground are very high,also who beside her family would know better than fans

fuzzybear February 12, 2011 at 5:27 am

Now other sites are starting to list her as Afro-latina.Man I never thought I would dislike character she played,but that melitta in Spartacus:gods of the arena(HOEEEEEEE)

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