How to make this site better

Hi all,

Please leave some suggestions below on how this site could be improved. Any ideas/criticisms are welcome.

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mju October 30, 2011 at 7:33 am

1. Make ethnicity clickable – ie search by clicking German, Filipino etc

2. Note whether the person is 1st 2nd or 3rd ethnic. Beyond that it sorta becomes irrelevant (still nice to know though)

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ethnic November 18, 2011 at 9:31 pm

Done! Everyone, the most popular ethnicities are on the sidebar.

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Andrezza October 30, 2011 at 6:56 am

You should approve user comments before posting, has many of the racist troll of Stormfront here, this site is very good and informative but it is unpleasant find comments from white supremacists wanting to “whiten” a celebrity, there are people who do not accept the multiethnic diversity

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rafael October 23, 2011 at 12:26 pm

you should post the human races of the world,there are far too many people confused about what is race,culture and nationality.it makes it hard to have intelligent interaction

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ethnic October 27, 2011 at 3:41 am

Hi rafael, Do you mean an article listing the various races of the world? Sounds interesting and Im sure people on this site would enjoy it. maybe each article could be on each race and people can comment about it…

Ethnic

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Angantyr October 2, 2011 at 2:29 am

The site leader should tackle the racism in the discussion sections. Their are far too many racists (especially white racists, but also some black). It makes it hard to discuss things without trying to deal with racist nonsense first.

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M.L. October 4, 2011 at 5:34 am

Agantyr complains about racism on the boards yet of racist comments about whites on the Snooki page. Got hypocrisy?

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M.L. October 4, 2011 at 5:37 am

typo – I meant to write Agsntyr complains about racism on the boards yet APPROVES of racist comments made by others on them, such as the profanity laden anti-white rant by poster Yadira on the Snooki page. Agsntyr is a hypocrite who demonstrates the truth of the expression “when you point a finger at somebody else you point three back at yourself.

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Joe October 1, 2011 at 11:21 am

@disgusted:

I share your disgust with this site, but for different reasons. I don’t see the site as suggesting it’s bad to be “just one ethnicity” or “glamorizes being a mutt” (calling someone of mixed background a ‘mutt’ would probably be considered offensive by many, by the way).

Not all the ‘ethnic celebs’ here are mixed, which is part of the problem. To whoever runs this site, an ‘ethnic’ celeb is any celeb who is not 100% northern European. So, a 100% Italian ‘celeb’ would be considered ‘ethnic’ while a ‘celeb’ that was half Scottish and half German would not. There’s a disturbing, subtle form of ‘Nordicism’ here in which anyone who isn’t Nordic/WASPy is seen as ‘exotic’.

Mind you, I doubt the person who runs the site is a WASP or ‘Nordic’ (probably someone who sees themself as ‘ethnic’). It still reflects our cultures’ very unhealthy fascination with ethnicity (and celebrity).

This one of the problems with the current national obsession with ‘identity politics’. While I wouldn’t go so far as to say it denegrates ‘non-ethnics’, it does neverthless present an image of the world in which there are two groups, the ‘ethnics’ and the ‘non-ethnics’. It’s sort of reminiscent of the old Dr. Seuss story about the ‘Star Bellied Sneeches’, an allegorical tale about the special in-groups (the star bellied Sneeches) and out groups (the star-less Sneeches). Obviuosly, the creator of this web site sees ‘ethnic celebs’ (here implicitly defined narrowly as lacking ‘Angloid-ness’) as star bellied Sneeches and non-ethnic, plain ole vanilla ice cream celebs as star-less Sneeches.

I think life is too short and interesting to waste time obsessi g on race and ethnicity. Even if no hate is involved it’s still divisive. It’s also particularly stupid in this case, since a star’s unverified claim to a drop of ‘ethnic blood’ suffices to declare them ‘ethnic’, even if they’re pale as a ghost and blonder than a banana. There’s a weird sort of ‘one drop rule’ at work here. It’s perverse.

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ethnic October 2, 2011 at 1:28 am

To Joe,

well i think you havent looked into this site enough,As this site doesnt just focus on, as you say “any celeb who is not 100% northern European” it tries to list any celeb and reveal their ethnicity even if they are “100% northern European”.

Perhaps the domain name, ethnicelebs.com is misleading but the websites name, Celebrity ethnicity should make it obvious that this site investigates celebs of all ethnic backgrounds.

ethnic
admin

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M.L. October 5, 2011 at 11:30 am

With all due respect, Ethnic, I find your comment a tad disingenuous. There are indeed some celebs listed here that are “100% Northern European” but you have to really dig to find them. The vast majority (and all of the featured pics) are celebs either of mixed race (or claim to be) or people who are ‘ethnic’ in the US sense of term (not ‘Anglo Saxon-ish’). You have links to ‘mixed babies’ and mixed couples and so forth. Of course, there’s nothing wrong with mixed babies or mixed couples or mixed anything, but it belies your claim that this is just a site to look up any old celeb’s ancestry. Why isn’t it called “Celebrity Ancestry” or “Celebrity Heritage”? No, it’s clearly a place to highlight mixed race celebs, ethnic celebs, and which white celebs claim to have some non-white or otherwise ‘exotic’ ancestry. It across somewhat perverse, almost fetishistic, as if one should either be fascinated by the spectacle, and again, the whole fixation on race is simply divisive and unhealthy.

To be fair, I’ve perused the site quite a bit now and there is, I think, a lot of healthy discussion here. So, I do see some good things; are all these links yours, or are they sites run by others you merely link to? A lot of decent people seem to be having friendly, constructive discussions on the boards here (some vitriol here and there but not much). So, I guess it’s a mixed bag. Perhaps discussion on other topics besides in addition to race should be encouraged.

Oh well, I think I’ve commented enough. I hope you didn’t find my criticisms too harsh – I’m just being honest here.

Later…

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Disgusted September 30, 2011 at 9:31 pm

Here’s a way to make the site better: shut it down. This is horrible! There’s nothing wrong with being of one ethnicity and not suffering from an identity crisis. You’re trying to glamorize being a “mutt” because somehow it’s supposed to be exotic!. Not cool.

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Angantyr October 2, 2011 at 2:32 am

No, the owner is just running a site that chronicles the ethnicity that celebs subscribe to. Not everyone is mixed here, at all. Some just have one ethnicity.

Ethnicity might be generally important in life but it is still interesting and should be remembered for posterity, as long as it is not used for racism.

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M.L. October 2, 2011 at 6:23 pm

Ethnic wrote:
“Ethnicity might be generally important in life but it is still interesting and should be remembered for posterity, as long as it is not used for racism.”

Don’t you mean “Ethnicity might be generally UNimportant in life”?

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M.L. October 3, 2011 at 9:06 am

Sorry – I was responding to Agantyr here, not Ethnic.

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Dasher November 18, 2011 at 10:29 pm

Agreed.

Mixed children here are like the new age Nazis. Every celebrity who is pretty is “mixed” just to satisfy their racist ideology while every celebrity who is not is simply one ethnicity.

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M.L. September 16, 2011 at 10:22 am

I have a great suggestion about how to make this website better: pick a different theme.

Two of the sickest things about this country right now are the national obsession with race/ethnicity and celebrity. You have managed to combine the two into one. I think the world would be a better, less shallow place if we all took a timeout on this obsession with ‘ethnicity’ and shallow celebrity worship.

Who cares what ‘Snooki’s’ background is? Who gives a damn about Kim Kardashian or that she’s half Armenan. WOW! Now I can sleep, I know Miley Cyrus has a drop of Indian blood.

Also, two things: First of all, EVERYBODY belongs to some race/ethnic group. You seem to think that only non-Anglos do. Even WASPs are van ethnic group. Second, the vast majority of your so-called ‘ethnic’ celebs are obviously white or mostly white or else have only dubious claims to remote and unverifiable ‘ethnic’ ancestry. Johnny Depp is most certainly not African and I’d like to see Miley Cyrus’ DNA before I buy the suggestion she’s ‘part Cherokee’ (why are pretendians ALWAYS ‘Cherokee’? LOL).

Also, ‘Latino’ isn’t a race. Latinos can be any race or mix of races; European Spaniards are certainly white, whether they come to the US by way of Madrid or Argentina.

This site reflects what’s wrong with America. Why not endeavor to blog about something less divisive and less shallow?

Thanks!

The Management

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ethnic October 2, 2011 at 2:13 am

To ML,

I disagree with your statement “This site reflects what’s wrong with America”

I think recognizing a persons ethnic background is a wonderful thing as it makes us aware of other peoples rich heritage as well as our very own. If anything I think whats wrong with America ( and other nations), is the ignorance and lack of sensitivity to other cultures.

Also regarding your statement about celebrity obsession, i think the celeb aspect of this site is critical to draw a large audience to this site. had I only made a site about ethnicity or demographics it wouldnt have drawn nearly as many visitors.

Moreover, If you havent noticed, a lot of the in depth comments are often about the origins of the various ethnicities that exist today. I refer you to fuzzybear’s comments as an example. I myself have learned a lot about history and demographics since starting this site.

Lastly celebs will always exist and therefore there will always be sites and blogs on them. Of the many celeb site like Perezhilton and TMZ which usually just write about the misfortunes of Celebs, this site is one of the few that looks at the positive aspect of celebs.

Ethnic

Admin

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M.L. October 2, 2011 at 4:32 pm

Ethnic wrote:
“I think recognizing a persons ethnic background is a wonderful thing as it makes us aware of other peoples rich heritage as well as our very own.”

I can see where in some cases, certain celebs have a certain look that makes some wonder what their ethnicity is, but let’s not resort to phony, lofty claims of “rich heritage!” Be honest, our lives are not enriched by the fact that you know Alan Alda is Italian and Irish, and he probably is no more connected to those ‘heritages’ than he is to Yemeni culture. Some people are just curious; they want to know what, say, Tina Fey is, they’re not engaged in some deep cultural exchange. (She’s part Greek by the way, now you can sleep).

Ethnic wrote:
“If anything I think whats wrong with America ( and other nations), is the ignorance and lack of sensitivity to other cultures.”

With all due respect, this statement strikes me as rather odd considering that this site illustrates a profound ignorance of other cultures. You don’t even have a coherent understanding of what “ethnicity” is; you constantly conflate and confuse it with race, national origin, and even with continents.  On the “What’s Your Ethnicity?” page you list ‘African’ as an ‘ethnicity’. Africa is a continent, not an ethnicity. There are many ethnicities in Africa and at least two races as well. North Africans are typically swarthy Caucasians, more closely related to Middle Easterners and even southern Europeans than sub-Saharan Africans, and in sub-Saharan Africa there is a vast array of distinct black ethnic groups. Ethnicity and race are not the same thing.

Ethnic wrote:
“Moreover, If you havent noticed, a lot of the in depth comments are often about the origins of the various ethnicities that exist today. I refer you to fuzzybear’s comments as an example. I myself have learned a lot about history and demographics since starting this site.”

Well then you should know that the various ‘ethnicities’ are simply the consequence of populations becoming isolated and developing unique cultural attributes. When formerly isolated cultures come into contact the result is usually that they merge and become a new culture (assuming they don’t destroy each other). When different cultures live side by side but refuse to integrate the result is usually bitter conflict and tribalism (the former Yugoslavia, Rwanda). There is nothing “wonderful” or horrible about ethnicities; they’re not good or bad, not worthy of ‘recognition’ or denigration, they just are. Obsessing on them is divisive.

So in conclusion, I would say this: Ever curious as to what some celebrity’s ethnic background is? This is the place to look. Fine; I’m sure a lot of people are curious about this, which is kind of disturbing. Frankly, I think it’s a tad shallow and a little creepy, but to each their own.

Thanks for responding anyway.

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jjjj! September 11, 2011 at 12:53 am

Put the Whats your ethnicity back up :)

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ethnic September 12, 2011 at 3:00 am

done!

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MaYaYaYa September 10, 2011 at 10:32 pm

Can you put the rate/vote on comments back up?

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ethnic September 12, 2011 at 3:00 am

im working on it

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Marwan Shafee September 10, 2011 at 10:15 pm

you should make categories of celebs like nba players , rappers, actors , etc. and you should fill out more celeb ethnics.

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tina February 14, 2012 at 8:57 pm

SOO TRUEEEEE !!

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