Beyoncé

by ethnic on December 27, 2007

Birth Name: Beyoncé Giselle Knowles

Place of Birth: Houston, Harris, Texas, U.S.

Date of Birth: September 4, 1981

Ethnicity:
*African-American (father)
*Louisiana Creole, including African, French, Acadian/French-Canadian, as well as distant Irish and Spanish (mother)

Beyoncé, also known as Beyoncé Knowles, is an American singer, songwriter, and actress. She was a member of the top-selling American R&B girl group Destiny’s Child, along with Kelly Rowland and Michelle Williams, and also originally LeToya Luckett and LaTavia Roberson.

Beyoncé is the daughter of Tina Knowles (born Célestine Ann Beyincé), a fashion designer, and Mathew C. Knowles, a businessperson and talent manager. Her sister is singer and actress Solange Knowles. She is married to rapper and music producer Jay Z, with whom she has three children. Beyoncé is a step-sister of actress Bianca Lawson. Her mother is married to Bianca’s father, actor Richard Lawson.

Beyoncé’s father is African-American. Beyoncé’s maternal grandparents were French-speaking Louisiana Creoles; their ancestry included African and French (including French ancestors who lived in Canada). Through her mother’s line, Beyoncé is a great-great-great-great-great-great-granddaughter of Acadian leader Joseph Broussard. Beyoncé is also of approximately 1/32 Irish ancestry, and has distant Spanish roots on her mother’s side, as well (at least one of her great-great-great-great-great-grandfathers, Juan Tomas Francisco Garrido, was Spanish). Her name, “Beyoncé”, is a tribute to her mother’s maiden name, Beyincé.

Beyoncé has also been described as having Cherokee Native American ancestry. It is not clear if this ancestry has been documented/verified. No Cherokee Native American ancestors appear on publicly available family trees of Beyoncé’s mother.

Beyoncé does not speak French or Spanish, but she has sung in Spanish before.

A picture of Beyoncé’s maternal grandparents can be seen here.

Beyoncé’s paternal grandfather is Matthew Knowles (the son of Taylor Knowles and Girlie/Gurlie Mae Inez Miller). Taylor was the son of James Isaac Knowles and Sarah Elizabeth Dixon. Girlie was the daughter of Prophet Miller and Jane Hall.

Beyoncé’s paternal grandmother is Lou Helen Pogue (the daughter of Davis Hogue and Hester Moore). Davis was the son of Jim Hogue and Rosetta Moore. Hester was the daughter of Pinkney Madison Moore and Arenia Goree.

Beyoncé’s maternal grandfather was Lumis Albert Beyincé (the son of Alexandre Beyincé and Marie Amelie Oliver Broussard). Lumis was born in Abbeville, Louisiana. Alexandre was the son of Jean Boyancé/Beyincé, who was born in France, and of Angéline Élizabeth Green. Marie Amelie was the daughter of Olivier Despanet Broussard and Alphonsine Boutte.

Beyoncé’s maternal grandmother was Agnès/Agnèz DeRouen/Deréon (the daughter of Eugène-Gustave DeRouen and Odelia Broussard). Agnès was born in Decambre, Louisiana. Eugène-Gustave was the son of Gustave DeRouen and Marie-Estelle Gary, who was of part Spanish descent. Odelia was the daughter of Eloi Rosemond Broussard and Celestine Josephine Lessee/Lesse/Lesser. A picture of Beyoncé’s great-grandfather Eugène-Gustave can be seen here.

Mathew Knowles and Tina Knowles at the Giorgio Armani Prive ShowBeyoncé’s parents (photo by Prphotos)

Sources: Genealogies of Beyoncé Knowles – http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com
http://www.geni.com
http://www.wikitree.com

Family history of Beyoncé, by Megan Smolenyak Smolenyak – http://www.huffingtonpost.com

Article about Beyoncé’s maternal great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather, Joseph Broussard – http://www.biographi.ca

Beyoncé’s maternal grandmother, Agnès/Agnèz DeRouen/Deréon, on 1910 U.S. Census – https://familysearch.org

1st photo by kathclick/bigstock.com

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alexgxo February 24, 2017 at 9:11 pm

Her mother whose black in identity, and her moms brother and sisters barley look black, like quadroons, especially with straight hair. He father looks like average African American,
Mostly black but you can see something that may be European influence.

fuzzybear44 February 25, 2017 at 2:09 am

@Alexgxo

Quote(Her mother whose black in identity, and her moms brother and sisters barley look black, like quadroons, especially with straight hair.)

Not usual for a Creole family. You could have 5 kids in one family, and none of them would be the same color, or have the same type of hair. and can have a mix of facial features demonstrating their MGM heritage. Pretty common thing. I’ve seen it in AA families to(little less common)

andrew February 25, 2017 at 6:26 pm
luckystar February 13, 2017 at 10:28 am

Her mother maybe mixed, but she and most people in USA follows one drop rule
Listen to Tina Taught Me (Interlude) by Solange and youll see her mother saying ” im a proudly black woman”

alexgxo February 24, 2017 at 9:17 pm

Yeah with straight hair her mom looks like a quadroon. But if she claims she’s black in identity; since race is a confusing subject, then fine by me. I still view Beyoncé as mixed, maybe around 60 percent African, 40 percent European or other. But her daughter can probably consider herself black and more people wouldn’t find it odd, cause her daughter is hypothetically around the same your average AA is usually.

fuzzybear44 February 25, 2017 at 2:38 am

@alexgxo

Quote( I still view Beyoncé as mixed)

I understand what you’re saying, but you might as well include most of the black people in this country. I mean most are not pure, and if you’re not pure you’re what? Even Bey daughter would be above the avg, and that’s even if Jay was the Avg. Jay can be just as mixed as Bey, who knows. I mean even if I strongly disagree with (Luckystar) interpretation of things, I still see Bey as a black woman, because that’s what I see all the time. However, that’s just how I grew up, see her how you want.

fuzzybear44 February 25, 2017 at 2:23 am

NO one follows any ODR. If that was the case I would be calling a whole bunch of white people black(Ben Affleck, Johnny Depp,Jimmy Kimmel etc for example)

luckystar November 10, 2016 at 2:36 pm

Beyonce’s mother is black
Ive reading her instagram, she consider herself black
Theres no such thing as creole on census, its culture, not an ethnicity or race

savanna November 10, 2016 at 6:27 pm
luckystar November 11, 2016 at 4:39 am

@savanna
Your source is ethnicity celebs, creole are count as african american on census.

fuzzybear44 November 11, 2016 at 1:45 am

@luck

Creole historically is an Ethnicity although it is now attached to African American. White French simply adopted the term, however the Creoles were always the mixed -bloods.The Louisiana Creoles were a separate group from African Americans for a long time. Originally coming from Haiti They developed their own language. They had their own history in this country, foods, type of music etc. Also they were a certain blood mixture, of French or Spanish(or both), African, and many times native. Later on Asian, Italian and varied other Euro groups came in. African Americans usually were English, Irish , German, Dutch etc from the beginning

luckystar November 11, 2016 at 4:45 am

Usa census only have those groups: african american, hispanic, white hispanic, white american, asian, two or more races (mixed), native american and hawaii people. Theres no such thing as creole group, they are african american, and italians are white americans.

bablah November 11, 2016 at 5:53 am

So your solution is to instead of Louisiana creole and Italian we use African American and White American? Or the super specific category of ”Other Asian” that includes both Hmongs and Pakistanis.

If you don’t like this site’s terminology, it’s your prerogative. But please stop trying to convince us that US Census is the be all, end all of ethnic classification (it’s reeeeeeeally not).

madman November 11, 2016 at 8:00 am

The censuses doesn’t define what ethnicities exists. Louisiana Creoles constitutes their own group because of their cultural, linguistic, and ancestral heritage, not necessarily shared by African Americans.

luckystar November 11, 2016 at 5:03 pm

Whatever you think
Creole are african americans by census and thats how her mother feels like cause i saw her recently interview and instagram of black matters lives
Theres no creole Luisiana category on census lol some of them can be on mixed race (te or more races) group, and many of them are considered just african americans. Like italians are considered white american by census
Creole are culture, there are even whites, those are just french

fuzzybear44 November 12, 2016 at 1:45 am

@luck

First off, I am of Creoles ancestry(Louisiana born). Almost All my family, comes from there. I answer to both AA and Creole, However African American wasn’t even on the census until after the civil rights movement. However Creoles were in Louisiana centuries before that. Just because white law maker don’t want to recognize a culture that strange to them, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist .Before being called African Americans on the Census. , blacks were called by many names( Moor, Negro, Mulatto, Mestizo, Colored, Black, and now African American). Here’s something about how Creoles lived in other place during the history of the U.S.:
http://www.zocalopublicsquare.org/2015/12/15/when-louisiana-creoles-arrived-in-texas-were-they-black-or-white/ideas/nexus/

English whites when coming to Louisiana called Creoles mulattoes. The French and other blacks people called those mixed blood people (Creoles), and most not some were of mixed blood

For centuries, black people weren’t even consider human by law, we were 1/3 of a man , just property. Some laws had blacks as non- citizens

The Census change it rules often in the past, about who was white, and who wasn’t. From state to state, from decade to decade . Here is an example of how screw up the Census was:
http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2008/08/primary-sources-1940-census-white

Quote( Like italians are considered white american by census)

Italians are consider white now, but not always:
http://fusion.net/story/213123/on-columbus-day-lets-remember-that-italians-werent-always-white-in-america/

Quote(Creole are culture, there are even whites, those are just French)

Creoles is a culture and a certain bloodline for the mixed black people, and whites. It our historical traditions, and shared history , which is what an Ethnicity means-an ethnic group; a social group that shares a common and distinctive culture, religion, language, or the like

madman November 12, 2016 at 2:41 am

African American wasn’t even a category on censuses. As bablah said, if you go by census, then we should stop using Irish, German, English, etc. and just write “White American”. I think more specificity is always better. And many people, white and black, would define themselves as just Americans, that doesn’t mean we should change the ethnicity of every American to just “American”.

If you really want to go by how she defines herself, Beyonce says that her mother is Creole here:
https://youtu.be/1ZDEX2ggvao?t=43s

Culture is the important part of ethnic classification. I think it makes a difference worth acknowledging that the Creoles spoke French and not (always) English.

luckystar November 11, 2016 at 5:17 pm

You can hear here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2bR7D6bhBMU
Tina saying: “I think part of it is accepting that it’s so much beauty in being Black. And that’s the thing that I guess I get emotional about, because, I’ve always known that. I’ve always been proud to be Black. Never wanted to be nothing else. Loved everything about it, just…”

What is your point right now? Creole are counting as black on usa census

luckystar November 12, 2016 at 4:09 am

Of course beyonce says she is creole cause she is
Its a culture, not race
If it was a rã e she would say ” My mother is mixed”
While tina claims herself into black RACE:
: “I think part of it is accepting that it’s so much beauty in being Black. And that’s the thing that I guess I get emotional about, because, I’ve always known that. I’ve always been proud to be Black. Never wanted to be nothing else. Loved everything about it, just…”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2bR7D6bhBMU

And italians are considered white now on census but has always been an ethnicity, not culture, you cant be an ethnicuty if you mix two or more races

luckystar November 12, 2016 at 4:13 am

If it was a race* and all the matters is 2016 laws

luckystar December 15, 2016 at 2:04 pm

@fuzzybear44 thefore, tina and beyonce are blacks, and tina already told to be proud to be BLACK, not mixed

savanna November 12, 2016 at 9:07 am

Is Tina supposed to say “I think part of it is accepting that it’s so much beauty in being Louisiana Creole, including African, French, Acadian/French-Canadian, as well as distant Irish and Spanish. And that’s the thing that I guess I get emotional about, because, I’ve always known that. I’ve always been proud to be Louisiana Creole, including African, French, Acadian/French-Canadian, as well as distant Irish and Spanish. Never wanted to be nothing else. Loved everything about it, just…” ?

luckystar November 12, 2016 at 7:54 pm

Tina says in that video: im proud to be Black
Thats all.

luckystar November 12, 2016 at 8:11 pm

She could say ” I’ve always been proud to be Creole. ” instead black, according to you all. But she considered herself black and thats all.

luckystar November 12, 2016 at 8:15 pm

Tina dont considered herself mixed race or something, she probably see creole as a sub group of black people.
You can hear here tina saying: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2bR7D6bhBMU “I think part of it is accepting that it’s so much beauty in being Black. And that’s the thing that I guess I get emotional about, because, I’ve always known that. I’ve always been proud to be Black. Never wanted to be nothing else. Loved everything about it, just…”

fuzzybear44 November 15, 2016 at 1:34 am

@lucky
Quote(She could say ” I’ve always been proud to be Creole. ” instead black, according to you all. But she considered herself black and thats all.)

Saying she’s proud to black, doesn’t mean she’s not also proud to be Creole. If she was not proud of her heritage, she wouldn’t have taught her daughters about it. Beyoncé wouldn’t be on a video talking about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0JBBQ6R1b8

Tina being a proud black women of Creole ancestry, is same as you being a proud white woman of Italian ancestry, which would make you different from a proud white woman of French ancestry. Is it really that hard for you to understand?

Here are other Creoles:

the first video, is a smaller version of bigger one. In the bigger version, you hear Creoles saying how proud they are to be black people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tfVpHYyDcY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBTedlQFy8w

There’s another group of Black people who have their own Language and culture within the bigger African American culture , That’s not on the census either They are Called (Gullah/Geechee Nation):
https://gullahgeecheenation.com/

ashash November 13, 2016 at 4:47 pm

Creole is an ethnicity. They have their own culture and language and are related to each other. But yes, Beyoncé is more black than anything. No one’s denying that.

alexgxo February 24, 2017 at 9:13 pm

Creole usually means nowadays European and African descent.

fuzzybear44 February 25, 2017 at 2:00 am

@alexgxo

That’s what Creole always meant

andrew August 24, 2016 at 5:28 pm

http://familyhistoryinsider.com link does not work.

Beyoncé’s “Beyincé” line can be traced back to her maternal great-great-grandfather Jean Boyancé/Beyincé, born c.1832, in France.

Picture of Beyoncé’s maternal great-grandfather Eugene Gustave DeRouen:
http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/DeRouen-Photos-46

Eugene on 1910 U.S. Census: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MPT1-R91.

Eugene’s maternal grandfather, Joseph Philogene Gary, had 3 Spanish grandparents: http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Gary-Family-Tree-276

Eugene’s father was born in Iberia, Louisiana, founded by Spanish settlers from Málaga, Andalusia (check out: http://www.thecajuns.com/malaguenos.htm)

Beyoncé’s maternal grandmother on 1910 U.S. Census: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MPT1-RSZ

savanna August 21, 2016 at 9:36 am

In the Megan Smolenyak article, it says Beyonce has Cajun roots.

midori29 June 29, 2016 at 8:47 am
midori29 June 29, 2016 at 8:19 am

Beyoncé’s mother had a nose job too

Multiethnicchick September 5, 2016 at 12:43 pm

no she didn’t. Her nose is like that because she’s mostly white

midori29 June 29, 2016 at 8:19 am

Beyoncé honestly is about 75%-80% black Subsaharan African, she had a nose job compare her old pics and she bleaches, this girl below is what a 100% black sub-Saharan Nigerian person looks like
Link:
https://youtu.be/XvrfB7ENqvY

This is what a 40% black African person looks like.
https://youtu.be/tbP_9OLr7rw
*I think people are confused about what real black people look like we black people come in ALL colors naturally without mixture blacks can mutate on their own, we all came from Africa

fuzzybear44 June 29, 2016 at 11:49 am

@midori

Quote(*I think people are confused about what real black people look like we black people come in ALL colors naturally without mixture blacks can mutate on their own, we all came from Africa)

That’s what I think people seem to forget, that everyone(so far that the evidence shows) came from Africans. That there were environmental adaptations for what ever reason(Just like with other animals). That’s why there are white people. They have it in theirs heads, that mutations can only happen once. People have lived outside of Africa for thousands of years, and for whatever reason many migrated back . There different environmental climates in Africa, not just extreme heat .All these factors play into why Africans are not all the same colors, and people don’t seem to understand that

luckystar June 12, 2016 at 10:41 pm

“Samiiraa March 25, 2016 at 1:16 pm
Her grandfather looks more white than black. And Tina could pass for an olive skinned European. I don’t understand why AAs don’t want to accept the fact that she has a mixed heritage. She is probably more black than white like 70% black but she is still mixed.”

Tina doesnt look european
she only would fit in Puerto Rico or Brazil. Her phenotype is tri racial.

fuzzybear44 June 12, 2016 at 11:56 pm

Quote( I don’t understand why AAs don’t want to accept the fact that she has a mixed heritage.)

Oh please, AA’s are no different than you Italians. The tiniest hint that you’re impure, and you throw a tantrum

Also, they know she’s of mixed heritage, so are they. She’s half Creole, while I’m full Creole and say I’m black (so what)

luckystar June 13, 2016 at 4:11 am

Sorry but im white and i dont look nothing less than caucasian
Tina doesnt look olive european, she looks tri racial, like puerto ricans and brazilians

luckystar June 13, 2016 at 4:15 am

Youll never found someone like her in spain or whatever. She got a skull and facial features with native american and negroid influence.

luckystar June 13, 2016 at 4:20 am

“Oh please, AA’s are no different than you Italians. ”
First of all, we italians are white
We have white skin colour, some can have tanned skin or light skin
Never brown or black. We have caucasian skull and features, “good” hair, caucasian noses…

fuzzybear44 June 14, 2016 at 12:24 am

You proved my point, look at how you got so defensive. Here you are (I’m white, I got white skin blah blah blah). I never said you weren’t white, so who are you trying to convince(me or yourself). So scared that you think someone is going to think you’re not white

Quote(Youll never found someone like her in spain or whatever.)

I forgot, do don’t usually know what you’re talking about. Europe is full of mixed bloods(Spain , Germany France etc). Actually look next time

luckystar June 14, 2016 at 12:07 pm

Since someone says she looks olive european i have to say you all are wrong
Tina can not fit in spain, she looks puerto rican, brazilian….
I lived in europe for many years and i know what im talking about, shes not common there. Spanishb “/” mexicans

luckystar June 14, 2016 at 3:14 pm

Native-born Spanish citizens of all ethnic groups make up 86% of the total population, and 14% are immigrants. Among the immigrants, around 57% of them come from Spain’s former colonies in Latin America (including those from Cuba, Argentina, Ecuador, Puerto Rico, Chile and Uruguay), Africa and Asia Philippines. The rest are mostly Eastern European (especially Romanians, Bulgarians, Russians, Serbians, Croatians, Bosnians, Ukrainians and Albanians)
She would be considered immigrant in spain, nothing less

fuzzybear44 June 15, 2016 at 2:16 am

@luck

Quote(Since someone says she looks olive european i have to say you all are wrong
Tina can not fit in spain, she looks puerto rican, brazilian….
I lived in europe for many years and i know what im talking about, shes not common there. Spanishb “/” Mexicans)

You seem to be going all over the place. I never mention anything about Tina, so I don’t know how you even got on that subject. However being uncommon, is not the same as not being there. These ladies are examples of mulatto Spain born citizens from Spanish mothers:
Lucía Asué Mbomio
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/662714801466925058/wG4g7BdR.jpg
Hedisa Visapa :
http://www.affaritaliani.it/static/upload/hedi/hedisa-visapa-1.jpg
here’s a male version if I’m not mistaken
Derik Osede:
http://cdn.guardian.ng//wp-content/uploads/2015/06/derik_osede_1.jpg

they were born in Spain to Native-born Spanish white mothers , so whether you consider them citizens are not doesn’t matter, they are citizens

midori29 June 28, 2016 at 12:40 pm

@luckystar wow you are one white person with a lot of knowledge. I agree with you

luckystar June 15, 2016 at 3:59 am

I quoted samiira saying she looks olive european, not you.
As i showed you, immigrants are minority in spain and mostly came from white countries, so no
she doesnt look spanish, since people from spain are white, if she does look southern european why she is not considered white in world? Because all europeans native are caucasian. Black people in france are not considered french by white people, dont you remember about Flora Coquerel issues?

“I’m not a racist but shouldn’t the Miss France contest only be open to white girls?” to “Fuck, a n***er” or “Death to foreigners.”

andrew June 15, 2016 at 5:15 am

@ luckystar

fuckzybear is a provocateur, don’t feed him.

fuzzybear44 June 16, 2016 at 1:02 am

@Andrew

If that was true, then why did you comment. Oh that’s right, if I’m one then so are you(so you can’t help it)

fuzzybear44 June 16, 2016 at 2:16 am

@luck

Quote(I quoted samiira saying she looks olive european, not you.)

Then you should have put it under Samiira name

Quote(As i showed you, immigrants are minority in spain and mostly came from white countries, so no)

well immigrants maybe a minority, but the people I have shown, are not immigrants. They are native born to native Spanish parents

Quote(she doesnt look spanish, since people from spain are white, if she does look southern european why she is not considered white in world?)

Well first I just proved that not all native born people from Spain are white. Now the mulattoes and the full blacks maybe in the minority, but they are still there. Plus the full blacks seem to be breeding into the population.

Quote( Black people in france are not considered french by white people, dont you remember about Flora Coquerel issues?

“I’m not a racist but shouldn’t the Miss France contest only be open to white girls?” to “Fuck, a n***er” or “Death to foreigners.”)

Now you jump to France, pls pick one country and stick with it.

You guys crack me up with that (I’m not racist, BUT)

You Europeans are very funny people. You come like a tidal wave into other people countries, take them over and call yourselves native to that land. Yet a foreigner comes to Europe, and no matter how many generations of that person family are born there, they never seen as natives

Now as for Flora Coquerel issues? I don’t look at beauty pageant however ,Yes she had every right to represent France. Her father is French, and she was born there(full white or not). If the French people don’t want a half black winning, then they better find some better looking white girls

The french needs to shut their mouths, after what their country did in Africa. Testing nuclear bombs on the population, and the other things they did there

luckystar June 16, 2016 at 7:18 am

No, you did not show me natives, you showed me half spanish born half spanish and half foreign. Native spanish belong to white people, and it is on their census: The CIA Factbook (2011) gives a racial description of “composite of Mediterranean and Nordic types” under “ethnic groups” instead of the usual breakdown of ethnic composition. Thats a spanish native ethnicity

luckystar June 16, 2016 at 7:22 am

Native spanish means spanish people by race and nationality, not only nationality
The same way white american arent considered native american, they are only americans by nationality. French people are right, since black people belong to africa.

fuzzybear44 June 17, 2016 at 1:37 am

@luck

Quote(Native spanish means spanish people by race and nationality, not only nationality
The same way white american arent considered native american, they are only americans by nationality. French people are right, since black people belong to africa.)

So by your logic, this woman here:
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/galleries/x701/53109.jpg
Should not have been allowed to represent Argentina, because she is a foreigner. Did you protest, and say there should have been a native woman representing the country? What about Miss Chile (María Belén Jerez Spuler) isn’t she a foreigner to that country, but she was allowed to represent that country. Miss Brazil (Marthina Brandt), I know she was born in the country, but obviously she’s a foreigner. However you or anybody else didn’t say any thing

Also by your logic, you white people aren’t native to European:
http://politicalblindspot.com/scientists-reveal-the-first-european-faces-were-not-white/
the group that became you people only arrived about 7-8,000 yrs ago. Before that time, Dark skin Africans were in Europe. Your group being bigger merged into them. So by your logic, you white people are foreigners to Europe, and you shouldn’t call yourselves Europeans(by your logic).

bablah June 17, 2016 at 8:06 am

@fuzzybear44
”Before that time, Dark skin Africans were in Europe. Your group being bigger merged into them. So by your logic, you white people are foreigners to Europe, and you shouldn’t call yourselves Europeans(by your logic).”

Whet? Damn, American education never ceases to amaze me.
Those dark skin Africans turned white during thousand of years of individual evolutions in Europe. White people didn’t come from somewhere to Europe. They became white IN EUROPE.

luckystar June 17, 2016 at 3:59 pm

Its funny how yoi didnt makes sense. Argentina is not an homogeneous country like Spain or Japan. An Argentine can be white, black or mongoloid, plus everybody is immigrant in argentina unless if you are indigenous.

luckystar June 17, 2016 at 4:00 pm

You*

fuzzybear44 June 18, 2016 at 2:15 am

@blah

Hold up, while I agree the school system is flawed(and I mean every school system, not just in America), this has nothing to do with that. I said what I did based on new information I skimmed through last night .This information want be taught in schools yet(American or otherwise), to more studies are done. The article says (Pale complexions were brought to Europe from the Near East).This is what I was quoting .It also stated that (it seems that the white skin of most modern Europeans did not evolve in Europe at all.) By this information, it seems people came into Europe with light skin already . while another wave came in with a different gene about 2500 yrs later that made them lighter still. Therefore suggesting that while light skin spread in Europe, it didn’t start there:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3028813/Europeans-dark-skinned-8-000-years-ago-Pale-complexions-brought-Europe-Near-East-study-claims.html

fuzzybear44 June 18, 2016 at 2:20 am

@luck

It’s the same thing you said . You said white american aren’t considered native american, they are only americans by nationality. Even thou the United States is not homogeneous either, it can be white, black or mongoloid or combos. Therefore the same thing goes for the white people in Argentina, since they are not indigenous. So since you say Ms.France who was born in france to a white French father, can’t represent france because she is half black. Therefore Ms.Argentina, should not have been able to represent Argentina since she is white and not native American

luckystar June 18, 2016 at 6:38 am

Argentina make part of the new world, a country of colonies
Not an homogeneous country like Spain
Immigrants cant represent a country who belong to white people

bablah June 18, 2016 at 8:14 am

@fuzzybear44
The link you posted is a bit confusing. Says Middle Easterners brought light skin to south and central Europe between 7 000 and 9 000 years ago, but at the same time says north Europeans mostly had light skin 7 700 years ago. Then it mentions Yamnaya culture which is (surprise, surprise) between Middle East and Northern Europe (it’s still in Europe, Eastern Europe, that is).
It would make more sense to come to conclusion that these shared genes between one population and the other emerging at same time has something to do with populations located between them. The article fails to mention the connection between these two populations that are pretty far away from each other.
Then again, it’s Daily Mail. They tend to report sensationalist stuff.

fuzzybear44 June 19, 2016 at 12:44 am

@luckystar

Cut it out, you just don’t want to admit your double standard. Argentina was a homogeneous country of natives , until you white Immigrants came and took it over. Therefore, you white Immigrants cant represent a country that belong to native people.

luckystar June 19, 2016 at 2:29 am

@uzzybear44

Yes we can, because mostly people are white in argentina.

fuzzybear44 June 20, 2016 at 1:24 am

@luck

No you can’t you’re Immigrants , you’re not native to that land. Also the only reason you guys are the majority, is because you followed the European conquest, I mean colonization handbook. Which is to kill off the indigenous people by either( disease or bullets). Try to breed them out if killing them doesn’t work. Them claim the land for yourself

midori29 June 28, 2016 at 12:37 pm

Tine could NOT pass for an olive skinned European the woman looks BLACK get over it. Some people are crazy when it comes to Beyoncé.

andrew June 28, 2016 at 2:42 pm

I actually agree with you Mrs Midori, btw I think she is in the quadroon range. The user who posted that comment (Samiira, Arabic name) must be some wannabe European from MENA world.

Multiethnicchick September 5, 2016 at 12:46 pm

Tina does not looks black. If that’s the case then everyone looks black to you. You need help

Connerfromvine April 30, 2016 at 7:38 pm

she got momma tina booty

fuzzybear44 May 1, 2016 at 12:27 am

Nope, Bey might get her figure from her mother side of the family, but the booty bypass Tina

Mafia888 April 30, 2016 at 7:34 am

Blacks can have her. She’s not that pretty and she bleaches her skin and wears a blonde weave too much.

savanna April 14, 2016 at 4:49 pm

Beyonce’s biological mother revealed!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNj7wJg8knw#t=88

fuzzybear44 April 15, 2016 at 12:13 am

too funny

neiltennant April 14, 2016 at 12:41 pm

an african american who bleaches her skin regulaly and who was actually rather dark as of 1998 now has become whiter

not a positive role model

Samiiraa April 26, 2016 at 1:17 am

She doesn’t bleach her skin ! she’s always been very light skinned. Stop being jealous and frustrated. Her mother is creole from Louisiana, look at her grandparents, they were very light, her grandfather was almost white, he looks like a quadroon. Quit the hate hun

savanna April 7, 2016 at 7:48 am

Beyonce talking about her Creole heritage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiDuAbD0nxQ

fuzzybear44 April 7, 2016 at 10:20 pm

Well I do agree it’s a shame that we young Creoles don’t know the language. Grandmothers didn’t teach our mothers, and therefore we didn’t learn. I can only speak a few words myself, I would like to know more.

savanna April 7, 2016 at 7:42 am

Beyonce talking about being Creole

savanna March 17, 2016 at 2:58 pm

Acadian should be listed in her Ethnicity.

andrew February 9, 2016 at 3:36 pm
midori29 February 10, 2016 at 9:35 am

@Andrew, both grandparents on Beyonces mom and dads side, all four are black people, African Americans. There are no recent white ancestors. Also creoles in Louisianna are the same as African Americans. Beyonce just came out golden brown skinned in tone.

fuzzybear44 February 10, 2016 at 10:32 am

There was a cultural difference between Africans Americans and Creoles(from Louisiana), Also certain European bloodlines. However both groups got mixed up pretty good, although Creoles many times were more likely to voluntarily mixed( they had the whiter is better fever)

Samiiraa March 25, 2016 at 1:16 pm

Her grandfather looks more white than black. And Tina could pass for an olive skinned European. I don’t understand why AAs don’t want to accept the fact that she has a mixed heritage. She is probably more black than white like 70% black but she is still mixed.

fuzzybear44 March 26, 2016 at 12:01 am

@Samiiraa

Well I think they do accept her mixed heritage. However they’re also from mixed bloodlines , and therefore probably don’t see her as being all that special. The AA European blood percentages are all over the place

fuzzybear44 February 10, 2016 at 10:12 am

It’s what I thought, traits past down through the generations. No different than what you would see in thousands of other families over there

midori29 February 10, 2016 at 10:33 am

@Fuzzybear, agreed. You know what is funny. My grandfather on my dads side, was two shades lighter than Beyonces grandfather with near straight black hair and green eyes and he was still considered black. My grandmother on my moms side was lighter than Beyonces grandmom with waist length “indian hair” and copper golden skin. She still considered herself black too. Not to mention where are the pics of Beyonces darker black grandparents from her dads side? Its all done for show to sppeal to simple naive people who think all black people are the color of tar. And dont realize we come in light and dark skins.

fuzzybear44 February 10, 2016 at 10:59 am

@midori29

That’s not unusual, My mother jokes with my Aunt all the time. My aunt is basically a blond hair green eyed white woman, but she would curse you lower than 6 dogs if you called her white. At a recent funeral my other older Aunts on my father side looked like a bunch of old white women, but don’t called them that. So that pride in being black is strong. Also you’re right, where is the black side of her family?

savanna February 10, 2016 at 1:48 pm

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